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apocalyptic_rabbit

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There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« on: November 04, 2008, 02:52:15 AM »
The term RICO drilling means nothing. Just about everyone will agree that layout are to be gauged off of a bowlers PAP.

So why is it then, that so many people subscribe to this "RICO" layout? My pap is 5 -  13/16ths straight across.

Just shy of 6 inches, from the grip center. Thus that is my Pin to PAP for RICO, someone who's axis is say 4-1/2 by - 3/4 up, is going to have a much different PIN to PAP.

Why is it the same people who claim that pin to PAP are the same people whoe rave about RICO.

Now there is an inverted modified RICO?

Thats it, I am calling all of my layout by names that you would expect to hear from a car commercial. My next ball is going to be drill with constant variable, triple stacked, double leverage, with a twist.

Please discuss?
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Nor Cal Bowler

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 11:03:59 AM »
you must be new
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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 11:10:30 AM »
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My next ball is going to be drill with constant variable, triple stacked, double leverage, with a twist.
 


What's the difficulty factor on that dive...err drilling apocalyptic_rabbit???  
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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 11:10:35 AM »
and 20 years old
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apocalyptic_rabbit

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 11:17:47 AM »
Actually I have been on these boards for almost 2 years, I don't post too often, but have been getting more frequent, and I know what the "RICO" layout is. Pin in Center of grip CG @ 45  degrees, whole @ 6 -3/4 inches along that pin to CG line. I have used it, and was unimpressed, the advertised smooth whole lane arc was simply not there.

also I have gone for the PowerHouse/Ebonite Pro Shop Operators Course and was taught the same thing.

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sdbowler

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 11:19:52 AM »
One thing you have to learn is that not all layouts will work for everyone. This layout may not have worked for you but it has worked for many people.
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apocalyptic_rabbit

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 11:31:20 AM »
I don't really understand what my age has to do with anything? I have been bowling since i was 5 and have been a complete student of the game since I was 15.

if someone were to provide me with a valid arguement, that would be lovely.

and I am not bashing it as a layout, i am just say how is it possible to give a layout a name, and say this is what It will do, and then turn around and say when someone posts a picture of a ball that we need the axis, how is this any different?

People talk about the Lane #1 guys sucking back the Kool-aid, I see this practice as the way more potent formula.
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charlest

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 11:42:34 AM »
Rabbit,

After all those years of "label leverage" not really specify and pin to PAP distance, we graduated to the point where we "Lectured" people about referencing drillings solely by pin, CG & MB distances from the holes.

Now we have had Rico and more imporantly Track's major drilling for the Rising and UPrising positioning pins, specifically in their recommended drillings, according to the finger holes and thumb holes.

Since my PAP, unlike yours, is in the great unwashed middle, 5" over, while it makes much less difference to me personally, it offends everything manufacturers and drillers and the IBPSIA has been emphasizing for YEARS!

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Stormkid84

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 11:51:55 AM »
My favorite layout is 5 1/2 by 4, but for most people its weak but for me its very strong.  Its all personal preferance.  For me it looks like this:

--p----
--0-0--
----c--
---0---
but for some it could be
----p--
--0-0--
-----c-
---0---

posibly even all markings in the track.

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rockerbowler18

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 12:03:00 PM »
Don't hate on the inverted modified rico...that layout has done wonders for my friends that have drilled it.

Rico will be a little different for everyone, but there is such a thing as rico. It's like saying "pin high". It's a general categorization of a layout. Everyone's pin-PAP distance is different, but it's still a "Rico" drill.
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moooorich

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 12:29:58 PM »
you said it your self.......you come on here looking for an argument. If you have a "question" someone may be able to provide you with an answer. If you have information that may be useful to others feel free to share.
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DP3

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 12:48:59 PM »
How about that Norm Duke trick layout?  Seems to be working really well for him on TV for the past 10 or so years.
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charlest

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 01:51:11 PM »
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Don't hate on the inverted modified rico...that layout has done wonders for my friends that have drilled it.
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Never heard of it. Please explain or point to a url.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 01:57:29 PM »
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Don't hate on the inverted modified rico...that layout has done wonders for my friends that have drilled it.
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Never heard of it. Please explain or point to a url.
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Pretty sure he just means putting the CG up and to the right 45 degrees.  Think 315 degree drill.
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J_Mac

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Re: There is no such thing as RICO and I will tell you why!
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 02:00:43 PM »
What RICO does do is change the RG and differential in the same manner no matter who is throwing the ball.  

That will not always benefit everyone, but what in bowling does?
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