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lefty50

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Thumb hole position
« on: December 07, 2015, 12:57:57 AM »
I know this will sound like an offset thumb question, but it isn't. Please do not take the thread in that direction....

I love everything I get from Buddies. All balls from Buddies are scribed, and each came with a Vise IT originally. Tweaking pitches cross-country as I experiment isn't practical, so I have, possibly foolishly, taken 3 balls, removed the IT, and allowed local drillers the chance to tweak my layout. So far, I've worked on SMALL changes in thumb pitches and overall span. In each case, I use a slug instead of the IT until I get this right. In doing so, I found something tonight that doesn't make sense.

Each plugged thumb is clearly visible as having the plug centered on the scribe, since that's the way the ball was originally drilled. It caught my eye tonight that the thumbs in my equipment are no longer positioned on the center of the scribe, they are off center.  On the surface, that seems logical since the drillers each indicated that they could change the span distance to fingers by relocating the thumb without changing the fingers themselves, but doesn't that change the way the ball lays in your hand? Maybe the physical centering of the thumb is an illusion and the answer lies in the actual pitch being used, but that doesn't make sense to me.
Perhaps the balls as originally drilled did not have centered thumbs either. In the interest of full disclosure, I take a picture of each ball for my files, and frankly some look like they were and some look like they were not. Hard for me to tell now.
I guess I have 2 questions....

1. Would the center of the actual drilled hole normally fall under the center of a scribe line?
2. Can you physically change span distance by moving the thumb and not plugging the finger?
Thanks in advance.....

 

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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 02:20:14 AM »
Think of it this way, the thumb is drilled first.. then the fingers.... If you wanted to keep the thumb centered then the PSO would've plugged the fingers instead to change the span.. Would you rather pay for 2 holes plugged or 1?

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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 05:54:30 AM »
1. yes
2.yes.  Your finger pitches may change slightly in relation to your thumb hole, but the change is so small it not even worth measuring.

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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 08:02:49 AM »
OK, quick question.

 Did you adjust the span of both fingers the same, or did you change one more than the other?
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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 08:21:09 AM »
On some of the balls, both the same. On others, different amounts. I should add that when I say the thumb is no longer centered over the middle line, I mean by a difference of about 1/4 inch minimum, which I thought was significant, but perhaps not.....


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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 09:45:30 AM »
 If you moved them different amount by only plugging the thumb hole, then the geometry of the triangle changed, and the old centerline may not be the new centerline.

 As far as I know, moving the fingers different distances with only the thumb being plugged would require you to get one of them the correct distance, then slightly rotate the ball about that hole in order to get the required length for the other hole.

 
If you only rotate the ball 1/16 of an inch, and your span is 4 inches, 1/16 X 4 = 1/4, so only moving one finger 1/16 inch more than the other, using that technique, could end up with the thumb being off the old centerline by 1/4 inch, wouldnt it?

 Yes, Ive done this before, and it ends up looking kind of weird, but will work if the move is not too drastic. If you move it too much like this, the holes could even begin to look "stacked" one over the other.

 If you moved BOTH fingers the same distance, the centerline should stay very close to the same though, because the thumbhole shouldve gone straight back from the original spot and stay very much on line.
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Re: Thumb hole position
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2015, 12:05:37 PM »
Jug, that makes sense, much appreciated to all for the feedback.