I am going to the Vise-IT system in my four main bowling balls. As I look forward to getting the work done, I've been thinking about my thumb pitches. I'm a lefty with spans of 4 3/4 on my ring finger and 4 5/8 on the middle finger. I currently have 1/4 reverse and 0 lateral. I know everyone has their own feelings on forward or reverse pitch. I used a ball the other day that had a span far shorter than mine and had pitches that were 1/8 reverse and 1/8 right. I had no problems throwing that ball. It made me start to wonder if I should make some changes in my stuff. Is going to 1/8 reverse in my ball which has a considerably longer span than the ball I tried the other day, a safe amount for my span and what would I expect if I went to side pitch other than zero? I would appreciate any advice!!

It has to do with chatter from other topics/threads between the 2.

What does all this chatter and +1/spot on.... have to do with the following:

Just Rico to Lefty50....."Lefty50 you're an idiot and I truly give two s**ts of your feelings or opinions...I am glad I annoy you..."

The point being made is why is it so hard to see that the author of this statement is just plain wrong in making it. A counter-point to Lucky50 would have been appropriate , but without the personal insult.

I didn't "spot on" that quote. Try again.

How bout cyber stupid? Who stands up to that?

Counter points don't work.  The ignorant will continue to be ignorant and will spew their misinformation everywhere, while those that actually know what they're talking about will be ganged up on and shut down.  Funny how everyone's a mud slinger until they get a bit thrown back at them and then all the sudden they're above it.  Everyone just seems to really want to be misinformed and continue to experience the issues they are. 

50 years ago a lot of things were taught wrong, but as it turns out, all it takes is a bit of common sense to figure out that if something hurts and isn't functional, that it doesn't work.  Now you simply do what the individual hand tells you to do.  There's no textbook, there's no cookie cutter.  What's right for one person may be wrong for another, all boils down to a case by case basis.  There are certain similarities and commonalities, but as far as hard and fast universal rules, nope.  Plus I'd also have to say it's hard to improve on or divert from perfect comfort and functionality. 

Cyber bullies huh?  Somebody trying to save you from misinformation and problems, boy that sure sounds like a bully to me. 

I think the note that Rico will say and that EVERYONE needs to understand is that everyone is different and what works for YOU may be completely wrong for me or anyone else. A span/pitch is a very personal thing. Even identical twins could have different flexibility in joints and would necessitate different pitches. But how would Rico or anyone else know that unless you were able to see that IN PERSON?

Rico has seen way more than anyone else on here will ever forget when fitting someone and laying out balls. The TRUTH is some of you know so little that it hurts to realize that.

People like Lefty50 has been a bully for years. Been around for a decade or more and he was just as bad back then.