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chitown

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thumb pitch question
« on: March 10, 2008, 01:06:51 AM »
If someone is having pain on a certain area of their thumb do you change the pitch towards the part of the thumb their having the pain or do you pitch it away?
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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 09:56:13 AM »
Not sure about pain, but as far as blisters or calluses are concerned...in most cases you pitch towards the burn.
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LFSoccer2k6

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 09:59:46 AM »
i know for fingers you go towards the pain with the pitch.  as for the thumb, try to oval it out a little more.  where is your pain?
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chitown

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 10:39:55 AM »
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i know for fingers you go towards the pain with the pitch.  as for the thumb, try to oval it out a little more.  where is your pain?
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I have a callus that is painful at times.

If I laid my hand on a table palm side down, the inside of the thumb, towards the top, next to the nail.  I'm thinking my lateral pitch may be off and causing this but not sure.  I have 3/16 under plam pitch.
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LFSoccer2k6

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 10:43:08 AM »
is that 3/16 pitch forward or reverse (forward towards center of grip and revers is away form the center)?  and what is your lateral pitch and is it left or right?
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chitown

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 10:49:45 AM »
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is that 3/16 pitch forward or reverse (forward towards center of grip and revers is away form the center)?  and what is your lateral pitch and is it left or right?
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I have 1/4" reverse thumb pitch and 3/16" under palm lateral pitch.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 10:51:36 AM »
Usually a blackened tip of the nail indicates too much or too little lateral.

If with your hand in the ball you have a callous near the tip on the side of thumb...it sounds like if by inside you mean what I think you do....then this indicates probably too much right lateral.

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PS most of us can accomodate at least 1/8 of an inch difference either way if not more from our anatomical ideal lateral pitch(even more if finger lateral pitches are moved with the lateral thumb move).
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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 10:56:00 AM »
I don't like to make pitch suggestions without being able to "read" the hand and know the spans, but my best guess is 3/16 reverse and 0 lateral.  (Assuming you're right handed)  --  JohnP

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LFSoccer2k6

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 10:58:56 AM »
a good way to figure out lateral pitch is through flexibility of ones thumb.  if you are right handed, right lateral will get you out of the ball sooner.  have someone else (you can't do it yourself) pull your thumb across to your pinky finger.  if you can easily reach it, usually means 1/4 or 1/8 lateral to the left because they have a more flexible thumb.  obviously vise versa if you cant reach it.  Generally, short and stocky people with thicker and smaller hands cannot reach it and have right lateral to help them get out of the ball sooner.
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chitown

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2008, 11:06:28 AM »
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a good way to figure out lateral pitch is through flexibility of ones thumb.  if you are right handed, right lateral will get you out of the ball sooner.  have someone else (you can't do it yourself) pull your thumb across to your pinky finger.  if you can easily reach it, usually means 1/4 or 1/8 lateral to the left because they have a more flexible thumb.  obviously vise versa if you cant reach it.  Generally, short and stocky people with thicker and smaller hands cannot reach it and have right lateral to help them get out of the ball sooner.
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I can touch every one of my fingers with my thumb when doing it myself.  

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chitown

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2008, 11:07:41 AM »
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Usually a blackened tip of the nail indicates too much or too little lateral.

If with your hand in the ball you have a callous near the tip on the side of thumb...it sounds like if by inside you mean what I think you do....then this indicates probably too much right lateral.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS most of us can accomodate at least 1/8 of an inch difference either way if not more from our anatomical ideal lateral pitch(even more if finger lateral pitches are moved with the lateral thumb move).
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If I change my 3/16" under palm lateral pitch to like 1/8" or 1/6" under, do I need to change my 1/4 reverse thumb pitch?  Do I need to change my span at all?
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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2008, 11:10:53 AM »
you shouldnt have to change span or reverse pitch.  0 pitch all around is ideal, but difficult to master.  Talk to your pro shop and tell them you wanna keep the same revers and try a 0 lateral.  If you move to 0 lateral, your pitch from what I understand will be going to the left.  a good pro shop will do this for very little cost because they always want to make sure their customer is happy and satisfied with the equipment how it was drilled.
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chitown

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2008, 11:15:39 AM »
Thanks for the info guys I appreciate it.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2008, 11:29:37 AM »
Ummmmm...I don't find this to be true!  I DO have a thumb that wants to be lateral under palm is my natural spot and about 1/4 to 5/16!!

When I go near 0 lateral I have difficulty holding on to the ball and find I need to go forward from my current reverse position.

For me 1/16, 1/16 moves seem to work.

Ie if I am 1/4 inch reverse and 1/4 left(my lateral under palm position).
if I move to 0 lateral I also end up very close to 0 forward reverse as that increases my holding power to compensate for the reduction in holding power by going with the lateral out adjustment.

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Luckylefty

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Re: thumb pitch question
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2008, 02:51:07 PM »
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Ummmmm...I don't find this to be true!  I DO have a thumb that wants to be lateral under palm is my natural spot and about 1/4 to 5/16!!

When I go near 0 lateral I have difficulty holding on to the ball and find I need to go forward from my current reverse position.

For me 1/16, 1/16 moves seem to work.

Ie if I am 1/4 inch reverse and 1/4 left(my lateral under palm position).
if I move to 0 lateral I also end up very close to 0 forward reverse as that increases my holding power to compensate for the reduction in holding power by going with the lateral out adjustment.

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Luckylefty

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Lucky that does seem to make some sense.  By going with less lateral under pitch the ball should fly off the thumb quicker.  

I'm at 1/4" reverse and 3/16" lateral under.  If I go with 1/16" lateral under I should probably change from 1/4" reverse to 1/8"?
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