I like the urethane type reaction, and have been looking at adding a modern urethane ball.

 I noticed that RotoGrip has announced an upcoming release, the Hot Cell, which is supposed to be pure urethane with a stronger core, but it is asymmetric in nature, and I do not tend to get along well with asymms.

 I know drilling out the MB makes it stronger, but what overall effect will it have from putting it in the thumbhole?

Rollier? Earlier?

 Had a symmetric reactive once that rolled up with the thumb as the psa at the pindeck, and I really liked that ball a lot. Just wondered if putting the MB in the thumbhole would tend to make an asymmetric want to do that?

Quote from: itsallaboutme on June 23, 2017, 08:47:11 PM

If they didn't think it would sell they would just make Jesper some balls with this core and engrave them as a Pitch Black

 Yeah, and call it the TOUR EDITION if anybody were to ever find out.

 I heard about a company that used to make "special" balls that really weren't available to the public, and labeled them like normal balls. The only way to tell was they put different pin colors in the different models.

 I've always heard stories from "back in the day" about stuff like this going on. Taking one ball and re-labeling it to make it look like something else. One story seems to have involved a "mis-labeled" yellow dot that ended up having three dots on it. Don't know if it was the truth or not, but it was related to me as such, by someone who really might've known.

 Back when the old PBA forums were still up, some of the older guys were easy to get to talk to, and you heard some real inside stuff at times. Lots of good truth was lost when they went away.

I had heard that Columbia used to do that for Chris Barnes when he got on staff, strictly rumor but I remember him throwing a Super Trooper on TV and a source telling me that not a real Super Trooper, had HP Asym block in it to give him a better look when they broke down.

I was told the same stories by an well-known PSO in my area that two top PBA members that used his shop would have special balls made for them they would have the same core and maybe an different shell.

Back in 1969 I was talking to the PSO in the center I worked at and he told me that he had a batch of bowling balls made by Manhatten that did not have the label, just a serial number because at the time he was a rep for Brunswick so could not use any balls that had another company's name on it.  He said he still had a bunch of them left, so I ended up buying two of them from him.  They came in a Manhatten Rubber box.  Still have one undrilled at my brother's place.

Brunswick had a lot or tour editions back in the days of the Zones that used different pin colors to indicate which core/cover combo was used.

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