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tdub36tjt

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Drilling a Jazz...want help
« on: September 16, 2008, 02:40:12 AM »
I am having trouble finding the right combination I want in a light oil ball. I am going to buy a Columbia Jazz soon, so I am looking for help on what drill to put on it. The dry lanes I struggle on are generally too wet/dry on me so I have to be super accurate or take a strong ball and get really deep. I can tell at the beggining of the night if this is going to happen because it will happen when there are several bowlers playing up 5. I don't mind getting deep I just want another option that will let me stand in the dry.

To give everyone an idea I have a 5" pin to pap Wrath Dead Flush that in this condition if I get it out a touch too early it will go brooklyn and if I tug it a board it won't carry the ten. So I am wondering what  kind of drilling would allow me to play between 8-12 at the arrows and push through the dry mids and make a nice move on the back. I am also hoping for something that would still drive the ten out if I get a touch to much in the oil (if possible).

 

mw11x300

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 10:49:50 AM »
I have seen a Jazz drilled axis leverage that worked really well for this.  The cover creates plenty of skid, yet the layout offers enough power to roll up strong and carry.

tdub36tjt

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 11:00:53 AM »
Axis leverage drilling is meant to get the ball to roll early and lay off on the back if I am correct?? Is this going to cause problems with the mids being so dry. I can't even get the Wrath Dead Flush through the mids so I didn't know if an early rolling drill would be smart?? I know I could be wrong though as I am still learning a lot about bowling.

Edited on 9/16/2008 11:01 AM

Stormkid84

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 12:59:13 PM »
I like using rolly balls on dry lanes.  You dont have to worry about the ball jumping.  Personally my dry lane ball is pin axis.  My other is a pin down hit.  Works great, nice and smooth.
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mw11x300

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 01:23:51 PM »
I think the key ingredient here is strength of coverstock.  The Jazz cover is mild enough to create a good deal of skid without any specific layout.  The only reason I mention axis leverage is because I think the cover will naturally skid and the layout will create enough flare to smooth out the breakpoint.  I am just concerned that a length layout would promote a sideways reaction off the dry, which kind of defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do.  Maybe axis leverage with the pin close to the VAL.

tdub36tjt

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 04:03:42 PM »
Yeah I understand what you are saying. Your probably right. I just was worried that it might not get the length just due to the amount of friction. What will the pin being close to the VAL do??

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I think the key ingredient here is strength of coverstock.  The Jazz cover is mild enough to create a good deal of skid without any specific layout.  The only reason I mention axis leverage is because I think the cover will naturally skid and the layout will create enough flare to smooth out the breakpoint.  I am just concerned that a length layout would promote a sideways reaction off the dry, which kind of defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do.  Maybe axis leverage with the pin close to the VAL.


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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 09:34:05 PM »
I have mine drilled at 40degrees with pin under fingers in center of grip.This ball will skid very well because of the cover stock.And with the pin swung alittle it allows the ball to turn enough to carry.It carries very well.lite hits heavy hits,they all carry well.When I use on a THS I can play straight up 12 or straight up 3-4 with great carry for a low priced ball.I have already bought 2 more to replace the first one

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Re: Drilling a Jazz...want help
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 08:33:32 AM »
Having the pin closer to the VAL will raise the pin height and increase angularity to a degree.  For example an axis leverage layout with the pin 2 1/2" from the val would be your typical axis leverage look with early roll and smooth reaction.  Getting the pin in the 1 1/2" from VAL range will increase the length a few feet and create a slightly flippier reaction.  Look at Storm's drill sheets utilizing pin buffers, it explains the differences in VAL distance very well.