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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: Rightycomplex on January 22, 2013, 09:13:00 PM

Title: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 22, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
Drilled a Roto Grip Scream to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.

Ball specs
3 7/8" pin, 3.03 oz top weight

Layout
64x4x30, hole 7/8" 3" deep
Fingers drilled 3 1/2" deep
Thumb drilled 3" deep

Ending weights:
3/4 oz side, <5/8 oz finger

http://s1086.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcjones086/media/2013-01-22_18-26-15_981.jpg.html
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Strapper_Squared on January 22, 2013, 09:21:57 PM
Looks funny because its drilled lefty...
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 22, 2013, 09:27:25 PM
Lol! Blasphemous, isnt it? Thanks S^2.
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: JohnP on January 23, 2013, 03:39:25 AM
Drilled a Roto Grip Shout to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.

Ball specs
3 7/8" pin, 3.03 oz top weight

Layout
64x4x30, hole 7/8" 3" deep
Fingers drilled 3 1/2" deep
Thumb drilled 3" deep

Ending weights:
3/4 oz side, 1/8 oz thumb, <5/8 oz finger

http://s1086.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcjones086/media/2013-01-22_18-26-15_981.jpg.html

A ball doesn't have both finger and thumb weights.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: J_Mac on January 24, 2013, 05:04:55 PM
Drilled a Roto Grip Shout to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.


With that layout on it, it's no longer low differential...
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: MTFD24 on January 24, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Looks funny as it appears to be a SCREAM and not a SHOUT.....LOL
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: kidlost2000 on January 24, 2013, 08:06:03 PM
How far is the xhole from the thumb? I typically have mine at 1.5" from the edge of the thumb. Also prefer not to drill the fingers over 2.5" if possible.
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 24, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Yes you are correct. Sorry.

Looks funny as it appears to be a SCREAM and not a SHOUT.....LOL
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 24, 2013, 10:07:25 PM
How far is the xhole from the thumb? I typically have mine at 1.5" from the edge of the thumb. Also prefer not to drill the fingers over 2.5" if possible.

2" so its not an official double thumb i was doing all this from the top of my head couldnt exactly remember everything and i drilled the fingers that deep so I could create the thumb weight to add the hole, but i cant complain, first set out of box, 279,257,251,787.
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 24, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
Drilled a Roto Grip Shout to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.

Ball specs
3 7/8" pin, 3.03 oz top weight

Layout
64x4x30, hole 7/8" 3" deep
Fingers drilled 3 1/2" deep
Thumb drilled 3" deep

Ending weights:
3/4 oz side, 1/8 oz thumb, <5/8 oz finger

http://s1086.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcjones086/media/2013-01-22_18-26-15_981.jpg.html

A ball doesn't have both finger and thumb weights.  --  JohnP

How so, John P?
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: BrunsMike on January 24, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
I tried to read up about this term and layout on bowlingchat.net but there's not really much about this kind of layout in the Wiki.

So with that said, what is the design purpose for this sort of layout and what kind of reaction would be expected?
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: J_Mac on January 24, 2013, 11:14:27 PM
Drilled a Roto Grip Shout to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.

Ball specs
3 7/8" pin, 3.03 oz top weight

Layout
64x4x30, hole 7/8" 3" deep
Fingers drilled 3 1/2" deep
Thumb drilled 3" deep

Ending weights:
3/4 oz side, 1/8 oz thumb, <5/8 oz finger

http://s1086.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcjones086/media/2013-01-22_18-26-15_981.jpg.html

A ball doesn't have both finger and thumb weights.  --  JohnP

How so, John P?

A ball can have either negative or positive side weight.
It can have finger or thumb weight.
The last is either top weight or bottom weight.

Of the above three groups, you {u}can't[/u] have both... It's either one or the other
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 25, 2013, 05:16:00 AM
 
I tried to read up about this term and layout on bowlingchat.net but there's not really much about this kind of layout in the Wiki.

So with that said, what is the design purpose for this sort of layout and what kind of reaction would be expected?

It is designed to raise the diff of the bowling ball and is Mo's way of, for lack of better term, "maximize" ball reaction. I had this layout before in a Track Uprising. Loved the ball, but couldnt find enough oil for it. The Scream has a medium low diff so it makes the ball usable on the Dry THS I mainly bowl on.

Bowlingchat.net has the info on the Layout, and if you need more info, Morichbowling.com has more on it.
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 25, 2013, 05:22:02 AM
Drilled a Roto Grip Shout to try my hand at the layout. It didnt look quite right but it hooks...... a lot for a ball with a high rg low diff.

Ball specs
3 7/8" pin, 3.03 oz top weight

Layout
64x4x30, hole 7/8" 3" deep
Fingers drilled 3 1/2" deep
Thumb drilled 3" deep

Ending weights:
3/4 oz side, 1/8 oz thumb, <5/8 oz finger

http://s1086.beta.photobucket.com/user/jcjones086/media/2013-01-22_18-26-15_981.jpg.html

A ball doesn't have both finger and thumb weights.  --  JohnP

How so, John P?

A ball can have either negative or positive side weight.
It can have finger or thumb weight.
The last is either top weight or bottom weight.

Of the above three groups, you {u}can't[/u] have both... It's either one or the other

I understand. However, if you drill a ball and you come up with 1.5 oz positive side,  would you not check the finger/thumb to determine where a hole can go or maybe if you can bury the fingers or thumb a little deeper? Or am i missing the point?
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Stan on January 25, 2013, 05:43:25 AM
Yes, you said your ending weights had both finger and thumb.  That is impossible.  It has one or the other, but not both.

Just like a ball can not have positiv side and negative side, it can have only one.

Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 25, 2013, 05:57:53 AM
Thanks Stan. The big lightbulb went off in my head. Gotcha! Lol!
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: JohnP on January 25, 2013, 11:51:04 AM
I really thought one of the weights you reported was top/bottom instead of finger/thumb.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: kidlost2000 on January 25, 2013, 01:12:55 PM
I tried to read up about this term and layout on bowlingchat.net but there's not really much about this kind of layout in the Wiki.

So with that said, what is the design purpose for this sort of layout and what kind of reaction would be expected?

Has the info on the layout below

http://www.morichbowling.com/Education/DoubleThumbDrilling/DoubleThumbDrilling.htm
Title: Re: Tried My Hand at my First Double Thumb.
Post by: Rightycomplex on January 25, 2013, 05:30:01 PM
I really thought one of the weights you reported was top/bottom instead of finger/thumb.  --  JohnP

Oh, no. Just listed the box top weight. But thanks for correcting me. Had a brain fart.