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Tropical Storm options.
« on: July 29, 2012, 10:12:41 AM »
Hey guys. I just picked up a Tropical Storm Red/Black pearl that was originally drilled RH with the pin over the middle finger and the CG in the palm. Trying to determine if this is a drilling I could benefit from. I've never had a ball drilled this way so I really have no idea what to expect out of this layout. A little about me, that may help. I'm 6' 4" and 235 and my ball speed is about 18-19 mph and my rev rate is medium to high. I bowl on old, beat up wood lanes that dry out and carry down pretty quickly b/c the house has sub par a/c as it's an old, old building. I bought this ball to go between my Spit Fire and Ice Storm. The Spit Fire is drilled pin under the ring and the CG kicked to the right of the grip. I want a controlled reaction out of this ball on dry lanes but I also want it to retain as much energy as possible for the pins, so I'm calling on all my BR.com peeps to help me out with this one. If the pin in the negative side of the ball will accomplish this, then I will leave it as it is. Otherwise, I'm looking at a redrill. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 10:34:39 AM »
Can't tell you how it would work without knowing your positive axis point and how far the pin is from it. Do you mean the tropical breeze black/red hybrid? Or is it an actual tropical storm? Either way, assuming the pin isn't more than 6 3/4 from your axis and you don't flare over any holes, that ball and layout should give you a much cleaner/weaker overall reaction than the spit fire.

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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 11:02:39 AM »
I have no idea what my PAP is b/c I've never had anyone take the time to help me find out. The ball is an actual Tropic Storm and has a 3 inch pin. My ball track is about an inch or so from my finger holes give or take. I figured this would be a weaker drilling but was unsure how it would be as far as hitting power.
Thanks again,
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 04:11:02 PM »
Pin over middle finger is probably about 5 1/2" to 6" from PAP if you have a medium track. I have a Rapid Fire drilled like your Tropical Storm. It will promote length, but since the Tropical Storm is a three-piece ball, the flare will be minimal. Should be very controllable... and even more so with a scuffing of the surface.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 04:34:15 PM »
What about finishing power? I realize it's not going to hit like a high end piece but just wanna maximize it's muscle so to speak.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 06:31:24 PM »
You are better off going to a pro shop and getting your axis point.  Then they can see what the drilling angles are and if it will give you the reaction you want without having to plug and redrill it.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 06:48:55 PM »
How do the lanes transition? If they carrydown, that means oil is on the backends and a ball like the tropical storm will do you no good because it needs friction in the backend to be effective and retain the "hitting power." If they just breakdown, the oil in front dissipates on the backend and is absorbed by the lane. Especially being wood, i believe the lanes are breaking down moreso than they are carrying down. With pin above the middle finger, it puts the pin about 5-5.5" from your pap from where you are saying your track is. Obviously, the tropical is going glide with the long pin placement, however, with a 3 piece core it really has to depend on the cover, surface prep, and friction on the backend to get it to peel on the backend. Your speed scares me a bit but I believe that with the right surface prep, the ball can be very effective for you when you spitfire gets sideways.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 07:00:36 PM »
You are.correct righty. That's the bigger issue. Breaking down far more than carry down. I know because by the end of the night a plastic ball will hook 15-20 boards on the backend. Most everyone throws reactive stuff.even for corner pins. I'm one of the few who use a spare ball. Carry down is only an occasional issue. Regarding ball speed I can take it down to 16-17 with no issues. But 18+ is where I usually roll. Was gonna roll this at 1500 polished but may take it up to 2000. Undecided on that yet. Have to see how it reacts at 1500 first.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 08:15:32 PM »
The Reactor cover and minimal flare will store up energy and give you clean length, even on a broken lane. This ball will need friction in the back in order for it to unlease that energy and hit strong in the pocket.
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Re: Tropical Storm options.
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 08:55:45 PM »
Sounds good to me. The backends are clean and dry by the end of the night. Sounds like I've got the right ball for the job.
Weapons of Mass Destruction:

Totally Defiant
Dare Devil Trick
Dare Devil Pearl
Fire Road
Wrecker
Rising Star
Tropical Storm
Ice Storm

REFERENCES:

Celtic Kegler X4
edkpba/pba1992
 JDiesel
killpins
DEBBYIAC
rollingthunder
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