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Aloarjr810

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"New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« on: September 04, 2008, 06:30:03 AM »
What do you make of this?

A post in the bowlingtracker forum. A bowler had his span shortened 5/8th.

Click Here "shorter spans is better"

"the span was 5/8 difference and here's the reason. The Pro shop explained that most newer ball technology has certain drill specs, shorter spans is better in most cases.

My old span was not overstretched at all, it was fine for me. The new pro shop went shorter on my spans (he calls it the new way to drill and get the most out of the balls)"

I don't think I've seen drill spec recommending you shorten you grip. Anyone here of this "New Way" to drill up a ball.




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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2008, 07:16:39 AM »
Yo, Dudes!!! Helloooo, anyone home????

Everyone keeps on talking shorter spans. 99% of the time when we talk 'shorter' spans, we're talking 1/8" - 1/4". That's a huge drop.

He's talking 5/8" without changing pitches. That's beyond belief. In fact, I don't believe it. Even if he's got a grip of iron, that much of drop is not good, unless there's something he has not yet disclosed!
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2008, 09:57:00 AM »
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Yo, Dudes!!! Helloooo, anyone home????

Everyone keeps on talking shorter spans. 99% of the time when we talk 'shorter' spans, we're talking 1/8" - 1/4". That's a huge drop.

He's talking 5/8" without changing pitches. That's beyond belief. In fact, I don't believe it. Even if he's got a grip of iron, that much of drop is not good, unless there's something he has not yet disclosed!
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Agreed. I may have missed it in the post, but I didnt see anything talking about the pitches remaining the same.

Any change in span should have the pitches looked at as well. Shorter spans will need less reverse and possibly less right lateral. (Depending on flexability of course) Some of you that said the shorter span caused you to come around it more is a perfect example.
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2008, 10:09:16 AM »
Thats what got me charlest. 5/8"!! thats alot to shorten a span.

First he said "I did have tendon problems with my thumb" so I thought ok maybe he was way over stretched. So they took 5/8 off got it to the proper span.

But then the part he talked about how "I couldn't throw them worth a $%&#. You name it, I did it - drop it, stick, over/under reactions."

Sounded too short now to me and when he said he went to another proshop and tried a ball the pro "found a ball in the shop that was much better fitted for my hand - a little long, but it still fit on my hand without a pencil in between ball and palm."

That says that 5/8 was way to short for him.

I just thought that statement the first pro told him "he calls it the new way to drill and get the most out of the balls" sounded kind of fishy or he was trying something new he didn't fully understand.

I just think of how many complaint about releases and ball reactions there are that can be traced back to a bad fitting grip. be cause if the ball don't fit right you can't throw it right.
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2008, 11:32:27 AM »
5/8 is alot!  his span was either stretched big time and didnt notice.  i wouldnt of gone past 1/8" shorter in my opinion if it was already "relaxed".
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2008, 11:51:19 AM »
5/8" is ridiculous.  As usual, Charlest and I are on the same page.  As a pro shop operator, I can see shortening the span and 1/8th to help relax a span if the hand looks stretched out a bit.  But 5/8th?  Plus, you will not really get more benefit from the ball by shortening a span either?  I just don't understand that part.
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2008, 02:31:45 PM »
As an example, I went from slightly stretched to perfect, not relaxed fit, over a period of 4 - 5 years.

Past: spans were 5" and 5 1/8", with thumb reverse of 3/8".

I dropped the ring finger 1/8" because of tendonitis in the 2nd ring finger knuckle. So, for all intents, my span was 5" in both fingers.

Current: 4 3/4" in both fingers, with 0" reverse in the thumb.

That span reduction of 1/4" INCLUDED/was related to a (relatively) large reduction in thumb pitch.
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2008, 10:26:13 PM »
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As an example, I went from slightly stretched to perfect, not relaxed fit, over a period of 4 - 5 years.

Past: spans were 5" and 5 1/8", with thumb reverse of 3/8".

I dropped the ring finger 1/8" because of tendonitis in the 2nd ring finger knuckle. So, for all intents, my span was 5" in both fingers.

Current: 4 3/4" in both fingers, with 0" reverse in the thumb.

That span reduction of 1/4" INCLUDED/was related to a (relatively) large reduction in thumb pitch.
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I did the same thing. But it was over a few months not years.

Past: 4 7/8 and 4 15/16 with 1/8 forward in both fingers. Thumb had 1/2 reverse and 1/4 right

Current: 4 1/2 and 4 1/2 with 1/4 reverse in both fingers. Thumb is now 1/8 left and zero reverse
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Re: "New Way" to drill up a ball ??
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2008, 11:38:13 PM »
My span is longer on my middle finger than my ring. To get my most comfortable fit, I measure a 4 1/8 T-grip cut-to-cut and then offset the thumb (let's not get into that debate, please, I'm just trying to give you a visual) 1/8 inch toward the middle finger.

This represents a shortening of almost 3/4 inch from where my span was as a teen/early 20s bowler. My original spans were very stretched. Three different refittings got me where I am today.

However, since I drill my own stuff now, I'm able to play around with spans. I have found that 4" cut-to-cut is the absolute lowest I can go, no matter what the pitches are. At that point and below, I feel like I have to squeeze the ball just to stay in it, and I start getting pain.

I think the rush to shorten spans over the last 5-10 years has led to some people overdoing it. I feel the same about extremes in pitches for those who don't absolutely need them due to physical issues.

Jess
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