Author Topic: weak cover urethane or strong cored plastic (Read 4689 times)

J_w73 · « **on:** February 05, 2010, 07:59:48 AM »

What would be a good ball for spares and also work for drier lanes. Something that will carry.
I know lane #1 has a few plastic with cores .. are there any others that might work. What urethane would be good for this?
Which one would you go with ?? Urethane or Plastic..
Or would a control drilled avalanche work. I hear they are pretty weak..
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Jesse James · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:15:06 PM »

The whole Avalanche line is good for light oil. The Natural is also a great pic as well. The best I''ve seen is the Golden Nugget and XXXL by Lane#1.

I use an AZO Fatman, and a specially drilled Sonic-X by RotoGrip for truly torched lanes. It''s all in your choices, that fit your style.
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Gazoo · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:16:24 PM »

Urethane with a pancake core because if you don't have alot of hand the strong core will not override the plastic flare ability for most on dry conditions. Two good choices for a spare/dry ball are:

Brunswick Groove Urethane and my favorite, the Ebonite Nitro Blue Pearl Urethane found at sporting good stores like Dick's. The Pearl can give it a little more pop on the backend on dry when needed and still be thrown dead straight at spares. IMHO as every bowler is different!

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BrunsMike · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:34:18 PM »

I just recently picked up a Storm Natural for many reason's. I wanted something to play straighter with. I wanted something that does not over/under react. I wanted to reduce my bowling line up by dumping the plastic ball and using just my Natural for all spare's.

So far I find the natural to be a bit too much ball to shoot at my 10 pin's. Great ball outside of that. Allow's me to play 20-5 all night long with a small speed adjustment and a board or 2 right move in the 3rd game.

I'd imagine the Lane1 Starburst XXXL to be straighter overall.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:38:02 PM »

What about urethane with a core? I see the natural and the hype out right now. Which one is weaker ??
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BrunsMike · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:46:09 PM »

Well the Natural uses the turbine core which is used in the Storm Fast and Storm Furious. This ball can hook the entire lane from right to left, so to me that's quite a bit. I've never thrown the hype though. Depending on what core that ball has, it could be weaker then the natural.
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dougb · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:46:09 PM »

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What about urethane with a core? I see the natural and the hype out right now. Which one is weaker ??

This has been discussed many times here. The Natural is the weaker ball.

BrunsMike · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:01:35 PM »

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What about urethane with a core? I see the natural and the hype out right now. Which one is weaker ??

This has been discussed many times here. The Natural is the weaker ball.

I've seen other Urethane ball's on the market say it's urethane and it is but storm is the only one that use's a natural urethane coverstock while everyone else is adding in Reactive's or Solid with the urethane. I can see that causing all other's to be more aggressive.
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slap · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:26:05 PM »

The Ogre Urethane is exactly what you need.

I went through this process several months ago after my trusty blue dot cracked and I'm very happy with the Ogre. Compared to my Desperado and the Slate Blue Gargoyle it replaced, the Ogre is milder and its ball motion is better suited for spare shooting.

I've used it as a strike ball on the two short patterns I've seen this season and it carries very well.
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slap · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:27:53 PM »

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What about urethane with a core? I see the natural and the hype out right now. Which one is weaker ??

This has been discussed many times here. The Natural is the weaker ball.

I've seen other Urethane ball's on the market say it's urethane and it is but storm is the only one that use's a natural urethane coverstock while everyone else is adding in Reactive's or Solid with the urethane. I can see that causing all other's to be more aggressive.
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I've read this about the Hammer Pure balls from a few years ago but not about any of the current urethane releases.

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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:58:17 PM »

Ogre Urethane has a real core although it comes 1500 polished. OOB, on my THS, it went straight. Had to remove the polish and it worked well on the shorter PBA patterns for me.

Visionary has a history of making urethane balls with a core for the last ten years or so. Sorcerer, Amulet Glow, Slate Blue Gargoyle, and the Ogre Urethane. Also a plastic ball with a core, the Amulet. You might be able to find some of them on eBay.

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qstick777 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2010, 01:40:47 PM »

I've had luck with some older resin. I found an AMF Ninja RPM - had a few nicks in it, but overall good condition. It works well for spares and is perfect for when the lanes dry out.

I have a Hype Urethane, but haven't drilled it yet, so I can't comment on it.

I'd be a little worried though - sounds like these new urethane balls are fairly strong, and they are coming with even less surface (higher finish numbers).

The older urethane "oil" balls came with much more surface (lower numbers), so maybe finding an older Hammer (red, blue, or black) and taking them up to 800 or higher might be an alternative (they came at 320 grit back in the day).

Heck, you might even look for a newer ball with high games that has suffered "ball death."

charlest · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2010, 01:59:32 PM »

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What about urethane with a core? I see the natural and the hype out right now. Which one is weaker ??
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Seismic Desperado.
You can use it on more dry, less oil than either and it has a mass bias for more backend than either other urethane. Besides it''s a pearl urethane.
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Gazoo · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:51:23 PM »

I have a hard time seeing a urethane with a core being a good spare ball, but then again, some can throw reactive dead straight at spares.
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stormed1 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2010, 04:13:02 PM »

My polished 5 x 3.5 Hype is stronger than my SX-1 with a 5.5 x 4 drilling on it

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