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10 In The Pit Pro Shop

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Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« on: October 04, 2008, 03:46:52 PM »
How do you guys generally feel about this?? with the weaker ball typically "losing" hitting potential how would you guys feel about drilling something mid priced (Playmaker, Psycho,) wtih a weaker drilling?

I made a post in misc. about bowling in a old wood house... my boss is throwing a tropical with everything in the palm.. not scoring great, but hes around 210ish in there but carrying is a small problem.. ..i dont really wanna have to drop down to that weak of a ball, but hes playing right where i would like to up the boards, but most of my stuff is way to aggressive.. any certain layouts or drillings u would reccomend?

or any other suggestions would be appreciated to!
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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 08:15:42 AM »
My 2 cents:
It's a great fallacy that a "weaker" ball will not hit as hard or will have worse carry power than a "stronger" ball. I found that to be a fallacy, and old wives' tale. It depends more on the correct use of the ball as well as the drilling and the bowler's hand, just like it does for any other ball.

Recently I did what you're talking about with a Lanemasters Sure Strike. Its normal use is like the Playmaker abd Psycho: meidum oil. I did it because dumb ole Lanemasters doesn't make many "weaker" balls. So I put the pin over the center of the bridge and the CG just below it, slightly kicked out, maybe 1", no weight hole. Now the Sure Strike is known for its incredible hitting power. SO I figured it was a cinch to carry.

Recently I also drilled up an Ice Blue Power Groove pearl I had sitting around for the lonngest time. I put a more normal drill on it. I wanted them both for the same medium light oil pattern. I actually got a better overall ball reaction from the Power Groove than I did from the Sure Strike.

Another Prime example is the Visioanry Blue/Green Centaur. This has to be one of the "weakest" balls ever made. Its flare is less than that of a pancake core, approx .015". Yet few balls made today have better overall carrying power. Pins don't go flying around like they do with many new balls, but they fall when you and anyone watching never think they would. I've had friends say things like, "I never thought that ball would hit the headpin, no less carry everything."  Pins just can't seem to wait to fall down when they see this thing coming at them.

Personally, If you're trying to weaken a Playmaker or Psycho, I sincerely wonder if you wouldn't be better served by drilling a Cherry Vibe, an Emerald Vibe or a Clash normally.

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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 08:55:39 AM »
just from my experience it is the way to go. i drilled up some aggressive morich equipment as i am a very low rev player. i found that what i thought was just my lack of hand was also a ball burning up. i am using less aggressive equipment one drilled mild and one medium and i have much better energy retention. my ball doesn't cover many boards but it is now hitting the pocket with enough juice to carry. i cannot make aggressive equipment do that. i just need to keep my feet and ball speed slow to allow ball to turn up towards the pocket. but that is a shortcoming i have always had.
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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 10:44:47 AM »
quote:
It's a great fallacy that a "weaker" ball will not hit as hard or will have worse carry power than a "stronger" ball. I found that to be a fallacy, and old wives' tale.


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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 11:29:54 AM »
a weaker ball will be more consistant and will hit just as hard if not harder. or you could try drilling a smoother piece. I personally have been drilling a lot of older things such as rhino's, beasts, and old faball jammers..
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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 01:12:14 PM »
The term "weaker" usually means weaker in the oil. That translates to "stronger in the dry" and/or stronger down the lane..!! =:^D
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Re: Weak drilling with mid priced ball...
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 01:31:03 PM »
If you think a "weaker" ball won't carry, dry the outside 7 boards and I will throw a three piece plastic ball and make it carry. I've shot many high games ( highest 290 ) and series ( highest 789 ) throwing a plastic ball straight up 4.

  Like T-God says, the term "weaker" generally refers to the volume of oil that a ball can handle, NOT to how much power it retains and unleashes at the point of contact.  In fact, because of power retention, a weaker shelled ball sometimes has more power left at impact than a "strong" ball that has burned up a lot on it's way to the pins.

  As for the theory of drilling a stronger ball weakly, I have found that they do, for me at least, seem to lose a little "pop", but become much more predictable.  I think that has to do with the relatively stable core position of the "weaker" drillings.

  Me, I am not afraid of "weaker" balls.  I guess, again for me, it is a choice between predictable pocket with lessened carry ( strong ball drilled weakly ) or less pocket % with increased carry ratio ( weak ball drilled normally ).  I have used both and had good and bad luck with both.  It is just a coin flip as to which will be best for you.  For me, I have to choose between striking 1/2 the time and making my spares ( strong ball drilled weak ) or striking 75% of the time and leaving some splits that I can't make ( weaker ball drilled normally ).  Either way, I averaged about the same over a period of time.
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