General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: bigfish on February 21, 2011, 05:49:14 AM
Title: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: bigfish on February 21, 2011, 05:49:14 AM
What type of layouts are you peps using for wet/dry? Curtain coverstock? Pin on Axis or rico? Let me know
Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: mogators on February 21, 2011, 02:19:46 PM
I have been using Rico drilled stuff for my wet/dry house shot. I have a Sidewinder (particle pearl) and if that is too strong, I go to my Dark Star. Both of those are Rico. I also use a Ambush (particle pearl) with the pin just under the bridge and CG kicked out about an inch.
Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Jesse James on March 03, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
I use rico drilled equipment, and also full-roller drilled particle pieces. Specifically, and old polished Hammer wheel, and a similarly drilled Rage.
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Edited by Jesse James on 3/3/2011 at 3:24 PM
Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Locke on March 03, 2011, 02:23:59 PM
I will usually move deeper and put my break point between 12 and 15 and just play tight. Takes the wet dry out of play usually.
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Edited by Locke on 3/3/2011 at 3:29 PM
Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Jesse James on March 03, 2011, 02:28:58 PM
Great observation Locke.
I too have had success playing a much tighter line, and keeping things very simple at the release point. I have scored very well with my Riot, that is drilled pin over ring, with cg kicked 2". In fact, I believe I was playing 18 at the arrows with a small swing.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Locke on March 03, 2011, 02:30:49 PM
Sorry buddy, when I opened it up there were 4 of your posts. I usually ignore that but I couldn't resist today :p
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 03, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
Usually adjust my release. Playing up the boards but coming out of the back of the ball and not try getting around it as much. The lanes will make sure the ball finishes. Then as they break down you can start moving in and start getting around the ball more as normal.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 04, 2011, 01:17:41 AM
I made good experience with both a half-axis layout and a simple label layout:
The half-axis layout is 1st choice, because it gets the ball into a very smooth, early roll, blending out almost any over/under issues. The drawback is that the ball is very rolly, and quickly bleeds energy. So I'd rather recommend a high RG/weaker cover ball as basis - I have a particle Power Groove set up this way, polished, and it is just great when the back end becomes spotty (e. g. through open bowlers), but needs speed and a firm release when the heads go away.
The label layout offers a good mid lane read and a tame, rather straight back end. Won't cover many boards, but control is actually very good and this is IMHO the better choice when you face higher oil volumes.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: gee on March 04, 2011, 02:53:33 AM
I normally use a dull solid ball with Rico Layout and try to keep the elbow near to my body playing tighter lines with more forward roll. This will help you a lot to avoid over/under reactions and keep the scoring high.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Trudell on March 07, 2011, 07:25:35 AM
I use a hybrid bowling ball with a pin about a half inch from my axis and a flat 1-2000 abralon finish. For me the core stabilizes early and does not flare at all. Mixed with the hybrid cover and flat surface prep the ball controls the oil great and doesn't jerk sideways off the dry it comes rolling off the dry. You may not have the beat carry every time but you should be able to control break point pretty good.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: scotts33 on March 07, 2011, 07:44:52 AM
My wet/dry ball @ 2000 ab. I will be using this ball more on house shots as the temp. rises in the spring and lane conditions get drier with less volume.
(https://i.imgur.com/1ooPrwz.png)
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: djones on March 07, 2011, 12:05:39 PM
Don't overlook the option of using urethane on a left-to-right wet/dry condition.
Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: Inferno_256 on March 07, 2011, 09:56:27 PM
I find that wet/dry is usually caused by surface and core not matching up rather than a specific layout. Most often the cover prep is too shiny or the rg is too high.
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 08, 2011, 01:04:23 AM
Ah, a weak label layout! I assume that this is a B/G Centaur? A very good basic choice for a controllable ball. A very good package, IMHO!
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Title: Re: Wet/Dry layout
Post by: scotts33 on March 08, 2011, 03:24:01 AM
Yes, that's a Visionary Blue/Green Centaur 2.61 Rg .015 diff. Reasonably strong cover/core but with the high Rg and small differential keeps it from flaring more than 2"s. Great wet dry ball and layout. Very controllable and hits hard. This is probably my top of all time Visionary ball. I've shot multiple 7's with it when others were struggling to hit the same line with anything else.