Post by: The great one on June 23, 2004, 11:34:28 AM
Post by: JohnP on June 24, 2004, 05:44:08 PM
http://www.rollrite.co.uk/index.php
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2004, 05:01:12 PM
Post by: thfonz98 on June 30, 2004, 01:49:34 AM
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Biggest backend I have ever seen is with that layout.
same here
my 12 year old 315* 1/2-1in. pin purple buzzsaw has more backend than anything else i own(including inferno, trauma, illusion, v2 pearl) and with its kinda weak coverstock(not sure what coverstock it is since there is NO info on it) its great for wet/dry conditions(including the house shot)
ive got an old triton heat i might plug and redrill since it was given to me with the 315* layout
both of the 315* balls i have, have got a weight hole...so look for low top weight if possible(i believe)
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Post by: The great one on June 30, 2004, 04:09:23 AM
Post by: livespive on June 30, 2004, 01:59:16 PM
Most of the 315 layout that I have seen have the pin next to the fingers or in a leverage position.
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Post by: strikealot on June 30, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
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Post by: Ragnar on June 30, 2004, 03:32:47 PM
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Post by: livespive on June 30, 2004, 03:53:51 PM
I would say strong arc depending on the ball you are
using, as all of the energy is saved for the back end.
I have a NIB Viper the I my try this on just for S&Gs
I am going to place the pin above the fingers, instead of
leverage.
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Post by: The great one on June 30, 2004, 06:25:06 PM
Post by: loose5682 on June 30, 2004, 09:54:21 PM
1) would this be a good ball to do it with (dry lane ball, not sure about core "strength")
2) having the pin on the center line, would that cause any problems for a high tracker? (i.e. tracking over the holes?)
All info is much appreciated as always!
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Post by: The great one on July 01, 2004, 12:52:49 AM
Post by: loose5682 on July 01, 2004, 01:15:35 AM
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Post by: thfonz98 on July 01, 2004, 02:05:58 AM
The 315 degree layout system
The final layout we would like to show you can only be used on a Pin-In ball (1" or less) that has the mass bias premarked. This is the 315 Degree layout.
this is what mine looks like, pin 1/2 off of center grip, little dot just up and to the right is the cg, weight hole to the right (picture's dark sorry!):
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNDU3MTg0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
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Post by: loose5682 on July 01, 2004, 02:25:49 AM
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Post by: thfonz98 on July 01, 2004, 02:29:21 AM
quote from mario on mass bias positioning:"If we place the Mass Bias point (which is 6.75" from the pin on a line through the CG) closer to the axis, we again produce earlier roll (see Diagram 8: http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets/diag8-9.jpg)
so I GUESS mb marking is not needed since it is on the same line from pin to cg.
ive only got a xfactor to look at and it seems to be true...its all in line
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Post by: livespive on July 01, 2004, 09:58:32 AM
On my executioner it is not marked, but they tell you how to find it.
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Post by: loose5682 on July 01, 2004, 10:54:13 AM
1) rollier equipment works better
2) weaker cores work better
3) it's not necessary to have a marked mass bias
4) shorter pins are necessary
anything else i'm missing? if not, that all looks good, and it sounds like it doesn't matter if you're a high tracker or nott
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Post by: strikealot on July 01, 2004, 02:19:19 PM
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Im not even supposed to be here today!
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Post by: livespive on July 01, 2004, 03:42:33 PM
quote:quote:
Looks good...so in conclusion...
1) rollier equipment works better
2) weaker cores work better
3) it's not necessary to have a marked mass bias
4) shorter pins are necessary
anything else i'm missing?
5) low top weight is good
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Yeah, I think less than 2.5 oz tw is what it calls for.
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Post by: loose5682 on July 01, 2004, 03:59:23 PM
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Post by: livespive on July 02, 2004, 08:33:14 AM
and find the top weight.
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Post by: The great one on July 20, 2004, 08:08:38 PM