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qstick777

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Conventional drills - pitches?
« on: May 05, 2007, 03:39:37 AM »
Are there standard pitches to be used when drilling a ball for a conventional grip?  Are there any set depths for the finger holes?

I'm going to be drilling up a ball for my 4 year old, but I want to make sure I don't do anything that might screw up his hand.
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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2007, 12:55:17 PM »
Deadbait... Right, so the finger holes can connect?

With a hand that small, you need more forward pitch to hang onto the ball. Finger laterals can be standard at 1/2 right and 1/8 left if he is right handed. How do you plan to measure his span? Hope you have a ball fitter of some sort...

The thumb I would leave 0 lateral, but if he is 4, he'll probably need quite a bit forward.

Why you are drilling a ball for a 4yr old is beyond me, but I've seen stranger things!
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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2007, 01:16:13 PM »
Drilled a ball for a 5 year old girl, who bowled for over a year without holes, and wanted to bowl with holes like her Dad. I set her 6 lb Zone up with 3/8 left and right in the fingers, 1/4 forward in fingers and thumb, and 0 lateral in thumb. I measured her off an existing drilled ball with her thumb size and marked the ball surface short of her second joint, then measured the span...which was 1 3/4 and 1 15/16 or something like that. Drilled holes 1/2 inches deeper than length of finger tip to second joint and kept her bridge quite small. I then beveled all holes so no sharp edges were anywhere. This little kegler avg'd 84 this year and had games in the 130's. High series of 118 + 115 = 233.  Even though this is with bumpers, she seldom uses them. She puts all digits in the ball and walks toward foul line with ball supported with both hands, and releases two handed but off to her right side as normal.  Pretty cool. She had no issues with soreness and thinks I am the greatest ball driller in the world. My charge was $10 which included a towel for her to wipe her ball like her Dad does. Gotta keep the young ones interested.   Al

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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2007, 01:19:16 PM »
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Deadbait... Right, so the finger holes can connect?

With a hand that small, you need more forward pitch to hang onto the ball. Finger laterals can be standard at 1/2 right and 1/8 left if he is right handed. How do you plan to measure his span? Hope you have a ball fitter of some sort...

The thumb I would leave 0 lateral, but if he is 4, he'll probably need quite a bit forward.

Why you are drilling a ball for a 4yr old is beyond me, but I've seen stranger things!
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I have a Brunswick ball fitter but I don't know if it will work with such a small hand.  I'll have to dig it out of the box and see.  If not, I'll take him back to the center, find the ball he used a few weeks ago, and get the span measurements off of it.

I took him bowling a few weeks ago and he was able to use one of the 6lb house balls and throw it with one hand.  I would prefer that he learn to bowl correctly instead of throwing the ball with 2 hands and needing to use bumpers.

Besides that, he likes bowling and really wants his own ball.....as long as it's blue!


JONES_E828 - thanks for the links!  The greenlight coaching looks very informative.
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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 10:43:36 AM »
Thanks to everybody for the info (both here and through PMs).  I drilled the ball Saturday night and took him bowling Sunday.  He only had a chance to bowl 2 games, but the ball seemed to fit him fine.

I ended up using a span of 2 inches on both fingers - Brunswick fitter only goes down to 2 5/8.  Used my practice ball to drill the span and check.  Ended up using 1/8 and 3/8 laterals on the fingers, and 3/4 forward and 0 lateral on the thumb (I projected out the Green Light coaching chart down to 2" but I didn't feel comfortable going with any more than 3/4 forward).

He had a lot of gutter balls, but he did have a couple of 8 and 9 count balls.  He ended up with a 32 and 38.
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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 02:47:37 PM »
With that much forward on the thumb, keep a close watch on the base of his thumb for a while.  It may take quite a bit of bevel to avoid blistering.  --  JohnP

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Re: Conventional drills - pitches?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2007, 01:44:48 AM »
For 4 years old, its better bowl with 2 hands, put the ball right at the foul line and use both hands to push the ball down the middle.  Just have some fun.  If he already  bowl for a while, and want to throw 1 hand, just have to watch very closely, there will be a lot of changes at the beginning.
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