I used this ball in practice the first time, didn't like it. So I took the shine off of it. I use the xxx cleaner polish on it. This ball retains a lot of energy and when it get to break point. Revs hard into the pocket. This ball is very strong and I love it. Just when I talked about my marauder madness another excellent ball. Before I forget. I used the motiv scuff on the brutal , took original shine off and used xxx polish. Best move I made. A couple of guys I knew came down to see what I was throwing and the commotion going on.LoL This ball is a beast. Getting marauder mutiny under my madness. This is my 4 ball arsenal. I have a dry lane ball already, python don't need to buy one. Even though I used the polish on it , it still had teeth to handle the oil.