I bought the dude. Very happy. Basically I have a great bag for all conditions. My nightmare @1000abralon is for fresh heavy. Very strong and continuous yet is clean through the front. Hellraiser terror oob makes a very controllable continuous break . Favorite ball. Still needs a little oil under it to not hook too much. Dude was a little angular oob. So I took it to 4000abralon and its perfect. House shot killer. I should receive my red orange misfit today. Going to be my light oil ball. Or broken down lane ball. Going to do a Weaker drilling