I have both the hellraisers. I have found a use for the revenge,but the hellraiser baffles me. Neither ball hooks alot or recovers well,but at least with the revenge you can get a read on the lanes,but the hellraiser I never really know. When I do get a good look its pretty much the same look I have with my rising star,which is really depressing. The set ups on the two are only about a half inch apart over bridge,but the reactions are totally different. I even polished the hellraiser and that just made it worse. Took it back to box and just got pissed off all over again. Once again my 90 dollar ball outshines a hook monster,but thats another topic.

   Any way hellraiser has a really long pin to cg and it just seems to labor down the lanes lope lope lope and then a weak marshmellow type hit. Carrys off pocket shots ,but pocket hits are ten pins. If I play straighter to the pocket you get better results ,but as the shot breaks down dont expect to be able to move left and get around it no recovery,its like rolling a rock down lane.

     Its with a 4.5 inch pin  25 x 30 . I want to redrill it ,but I dont want to waste money on a bad set up. I throw about 15 mph and am looking for more versatility and more predictablity off the break point. I usually drill my strong stuff 4in pin under ring,but I am hoping to get a little more back end and more use when the lanes break down. I know ,if I love the rising star so much just use it. There are those occasions when its not enough and the mission x is too much,plus its bowling why do we buy balls,cause we can,not because we need them,ok sorry. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.