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LoganS

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No Love for DV8
« on: July 23, 2012, 02:39:50 AM »
Does somebody at BTM have something against DV8? It seems like their ratings are a bit low compared to everybody else especially on the sport shot.. I read nothing but rave reviews everywhere else but BTM..

 

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 06:57:58 AM »
I wouldn't say it is a lack of love.  I just don't think a lot of people are using them right now.
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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:26:38 AM »
From what I have seen with my personal use, dv8 has a lot of over under reactions, I agree with BTM
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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 02:08:59 PM »
Wonder if it has anything to do with who does and who doesn't advertise in BTM and I have no idea which ball companies do.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 03:33:13 PM »
Brunswick does advertise in BTM as does DV8, so it shouldn't be that.

Maybe the three bowlers do not match up well with the DV8 balls release so far. Overall, they don't seem to favor one company or another.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 10:09:52 PM »
Wonder if it has anything to do with who does and who doesn't advertise in BTM and I have no idea which ball companies do.

That idea should have Bob Summerville turning over in his grave. He and his wife would rather have had ZERO advertisers than to have even a hint of that concept being even muttered in his presence.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 10:52:03 PM »
Agreed. I would hate to think that someone at BTM would bastardize the ideals of Bob. I remember reading his thoughts on the sport, and you're right, Charlest. He would be spinning. I hope that everyone at BTM remembers that.

Wonder if it has anything to do with who does and who doesn't advertise in BTM and I have no idea which ball companies do.

That idea should have Bob Summerville turning over in his grave. He and his wife would rather have had ZERO advertisers than to have even a hint of that concept being even muttered in his presence.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 12:27:04 AM »
I see a correlation between earlier, more even stuff rating better on sport than shinier, flippy gear.  With most DV8 stuff coming out of the box shined to the teets its understandable why the testers would have trouble on sport if the balls are only used in box condition.
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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 02:28:27 PM »
Brandon hit it right on the head. It is all about surface prep. Box finish they will be a little harder to tame. I have a pin down terror at 2000 abralon and it has no over under issues. Went 300 over for 8 games on sunset strip and bowled a game after a league got finished on shark and shot 279.There is no issues with over under if you have the right surface which is the same case for any ball.
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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 02:47:16 PM »
Surface is the #1 factor in determining ball reaction.  Over/under is used to describe ball reaction that is bad for what you are encountering at that very moment your on the lanes and seeing bad ball reaction on a particular condition.  On other conditions, the ball could be just right.  The first thing any player needs to figure out with a ball is where they will use it and how they will use it.  Then it's a matter of using it at the right time.  If you don't like the reaction, adjust surface to get the reaction you desire.  Over/under reaction is a reaction that arises from using the wrong ball at the wrong time. 

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 04:29:58 PM »
The issue is that the majority of league bowlers either don't care enough or even know better to tinker with the surface of the bowling ball, we on these forums are the anomolies - we have learned the game and take bowling much more seriously
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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 05:23:43 PM »
I agree.  And there are plenty of pro shops that take your money, drill a ball with no specific knowledge of the players game, and send them out the door.  It's sad, because some pro shops in bowling centers are no better than going to Sports Authority and buying a pre-drilled plastic ball.  And I think it negatively affects our game (bowling nationwide) when players spend hundreds of dollars on equipment and have no basis of understanding as to when and why to use it.  It's like grabbing your wedge out of the bag on a Par 5 tee shot.  No golfer would do that, but plenty of bowlers pull out the wrong ball for the wrong condition over and over and over again.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 07:03:05 AM »
I would like an opinion from other people than "staff players".

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 12:05:13 PM »
theop879 - What information in these posts do you not trust?  I would understand not trusting what is said if staffers were saying BTM has a bunch of hacks who don't know what they are doing.  But what the staffers are saying is surface is important in how a ball will perform, especially on a sport shot.  I doubt anyone would disagree with that.

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Re: No Love for DV8
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 12:39:58 PM »
Thank you spmc that is exactly right. Even before I was fortunate enough to become a staff member I would have answered with same response for any ball companies equipment regarding the issue at hand.
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