I had my vandal drill 70x4 5/8 x 40...and got a brutally long skid with the biggestt backend finish id ever had .. the only issue was it gave me a lot of over under situations.. So i sanded it to 3000 to make the window bigger hoping i wouldn't lose the power it saved in the end, we'll mission accomplished the window is bigger and the ball still doesn't quit.this shows the versatility of the stocks that dv8 has...this is def a must ball to have in your bag..and if the reaction isn't quite there scuff it up and let it fly