I have the thing returns actually i have 2 of them im a hugh dynothane fan i havent been bowling for long only 1 year I shot 2 298s i think 4 279's all 9th frame 9's too wierd. Any way I sware by my thing returns i want a ball with the back end on it if not more and something that will grab the lane will the new energy do that, im a tweener i throw 15 mph around 375 revs im a really high track player 1/4 from fingers, the way i throw now can i use pin below fingers with out it rolling over the fingers  ? How should i lay the energy out my thing returns is over the ring finger. Thx guys