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scotts33

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DT VPP Cover Question?
« on: September 17, 2004, 12:07:59 AM »
Here's the deal.  I have one drilled 5 1/2 x 4 1/2 pin under middle finger per Jim E's suggestion and it works fine on broken down heads with some carry down on what I am seeing on synthetics.

I struggled last night in last game trying to play same area on older wood that was resurfaced this year Guardian heads.  Both are THS's carry down on wood house seems more defined.  

My question is can I adjust the cover for this wood house by wet sanding to a lower grit and then use polish over the sanding lines?  What grit would you suggest?  Any sanding patterns to use?  

My thinking is that the adjusted cover with polish over the top will dig in a lil more on the back end.  Yes or no???  My thinking on this correct?  

BTW--Shot 233 & 258 out of box 2nd and 3rd games in synthetic house so I definitely like the ball.
Scott

 

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Re: DT VPP Cover Question?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 06:27:30 PM »
your love of one ball is showing.

If you shot such good scores with it, on the condition that was there, LEAVE IT ALONE! I'd guess another ball would be of a more appropriate use. Maybe a Vendetta pearl or a Thing Returns might be of better utility than modifying an otherwise excellent ball.

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Re: DT VPP Cover Question?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 10:32:01 AM »
Thanks for the responses.

Actually, I bought this ball for the type of condition of broken down heads with carry down.  It works great on that type of scenario on synthetics but not on older wood with Guardian heads because I am seeing more carry down than I thought at first.

I am going to leave the DT VPP alone and use it for that type of condition and take another pearl particle that I have with a stronger drilling and modify the cover and try that.  

Scott
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Re: DT VPP Cover Question?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2004, 11:04:24 AM »
Scott,

The idea of using a pearl to overcome broken down heads is not new, but particle pearls are, in general, muchmore aggressive than resin pearls. Particle pearls will not overcome true broken down heads, so I have to guess this is a very relative idea, "broken down heads". They may just be a little drier than you are used to, ESPECIALLY with your admitted "medium ball speed". You must be used to very oily heads.

This is all multiplied by Guardian overlay which is one of the softest materials ever used for bowling lane heads. Guardian needs a lot of oil to prevent early burn-up and that often results in a high degree of carrydown problems. I know because I bowled that scenario for two incredibly painful years.

Good luck.
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Re: DT VPP Cover Question?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2004, 11:42:03 AM »
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This is all multiplied by Guardian overlay which is one of the softest materials ever used for bowling lane heads. Guardian needs a lot of oil to prevent early burn-up and that often results in a high degree of carry down problems. I know because I bowled that scenario for two incredibly painful years.


Exactly charlest!  Hit the nail on the head.

Referring back to March 2004 BTM Mo says Brunswick Pro Anvilane 68-74 hardness,  AMF HPL9000 56-62 hardness, wood lanes w/urethane finish 56-62 hardness,  wood lanes w/water based finish 14-20 hardness, & Guardian film 4-7 hardness.  Balls are making a larger imprint on the heads as they burn out and carry down dramatically.  I'll have to find out what lane conditioner they are using this knowledge maybe helpful.  

I have a non DT ball that is pearl particle that I intend on wet sanding to 600 and then applying a medium polish as other guy suggested.  I can employ a drag type release to get the ball thru the heads my problem usually is that the ball will retain energy but won't finish hard enough in the pocket to carry.  This non DT ball is asymmetrical heaven forbid.    But it's the only thing I have here that will fit the bill.  It has a 75 deg. lay out and has enough pop.  I'll try it and report back.

 
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I know because I bowled that scenario for two incredibly painful years.


 How did you beat this condition charlest?

Scott

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Re: DT VPP Cover Question?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2004, 12:35:36 PM »
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 How did you beat this condition charlest?

Scott



What makes you think I beat it???  

Well, mostly I stayed with a medium aggressive ball and watched VERY carefully the ball's reaction AND the reaction of almost every body else on the pair. It was a 5 man scratch; so there were not only a lot of bowlers, there were also a lot of high-rev, strong ball users. Basically I chased the oil line CONTINUALLY! Most nights required moving 15-20 boards with your feet for the 3 games. Some nights were more successful than others.  OH, by the way, an out of bounds almost always developed very quickly from boards 1 -5; for all intents and purposes, unless you went precisely along the boards, 1 - 5 boards were non existent.
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