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tedfields

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Two Balls
« on: December 18, 2003, 08:00:02 AM »
To; New guy,Philip Marlowe,Charlest,Jimensminger,...et al;

I am thinking of having a two ball arsenal consisting of an
Anomaly and a Thing Returns. I was planning on using two
different layouts, pin neg, cg pos, and pin near ring, cg kicked
out. My question is, would that be enough variety for most conditions,
or would you suggest different balls for my "lunacy"?
Since I do not have a profile, I will give you a brief synopsis
about me; ball speed usually between 15&16 mph, average to med
revs, the "classic tweener". Also, how do you "gentleman" feel
about one ball with multiple layouts?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Ted


 

charlest

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2003, 04:52:29 AM »
A lot depends on what type of conditions you face on a regular basis, & how many leagues and tournaments you enter regularly.

If you're using 2 different balls and only 2 balls, I'd suggest the same drilling on both of them. It would depend also on where your PAP, positive axis point is. Those locations you gave are so generic as to be meaningless. If you don't know where your PAP is, at least describe where your initial track is in relation to your finger and thumb holes.

Those 2 balls may be appropriate, depending on the above factors.
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jimensminger

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2003, 07:55:53 AM »
Charlest first sentence says it all...there are a lot of variables in your question.

I ask myself your question,...could I bowl with just those 2 balls in a tournament,???  if I had to I think (depending on the conditions) I could. I would use the Anomaly as my first ball, preferably on the fresh where I could stay more outside/and or down and in,..and could probably use this ball until a track developed and the ball started to hook early in the midlane...then I would go to the Returns where I would move inside and chase the oil line with a ball that has more length, and retains late energy...those would be a good start to an arsenal,...after those 2 I would look at getting a Vendetta Black or a Vendetta Particle, for a benchmark ball that would fit between those 2..jimensminger

Phillip Marlowe

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2003, 12:00:51 PM »
I probably would choose, for a two ball arsenal, an Element and a Vendetta.  I think I can cover more conditions.  If I were going to replace one of the two, it would be the Vendetta with the Thing Returns, but I would keep the TR polished.  The reason I would tend to a Vendetta on performance is that I think it is useable over a wider range of conditions than is the Thing Returns -- mainly that with a shot of polish, it can handle drier conditions.  The Thing Returns is a surprisingly aggressive pearl -- in strength it reminds me of Track's Hex, but it is a little longer and stronger to my hand.  The disadvantage to the Vendetta is that it is a standard reactive coverstock, meaning that it will "die" over time. Now the good news: the Vendetta is one of the few balls I have tried that is actually brought mostly back to life with a combination resurface and use of "Hook Again".


As to drills, I would lean toward a 4x5 for the Element and either 4.5x4.5 or 4x5 for the Vendetta.  My Thing Returns is drilled 3.75x5 and it is absolutely perfect.  The reason for these drillings are that they tend toward enough length to allow the balls (for mediumish guys like us) to use them across a wider range of conditions, yet have enough flare to let them get around the corner without being uncontrollable.  

The problem with the Anomoly, if early returns are accurate, is that it hooks too darn much to be very useful over a range of conditions -- which is what you are looking for in this arsenal.

Now as to the same ball with multiple drillings.  I'm not a particular fan of two of the same balls with multiple drillings for most of us who do not do this for a living.  I think that most balls have tendencies which should be catered to, by and large -- that is, strong balls should not be drilled weak and that weak balls should not be drilled strong, for the most part.  Frankly, tho there are times when I keep two balls with different drillings (for differences within a house) it is generally easier to tweak the coverstock.  Further, I would generally prefer to find the drill that generally gives me the best reaction with each ball on the most conditions and let other balls fill in gaps.

For your information, my tournament arsenal is: Element, Thing Returns, Thing, Vendetta, Barrage.  I plan to add an Anomoly at the top end in January (tapped out after Christmas you know).  But this type of arsenal has some overlap and is designed to give me complete coverage over the conditions I am likely to encounter.
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tedfields

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2003, 01:02:53 PM »
Charlest, I do apologize, my pap is 5 and 5/8. Please excuse my
incompetence.
Thanks, Ted

charlest

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2003, 02:38:57 PM »
quote:
Charlest, I do apologize, my pap is 5 and 5/8. Please excuse my
incompetence.
Thanks, Ted


Ted, the other thing, as implied by Mr. Marlowe's post is how heavy an oil pattern do you face regularly? The Anomaly is (supposed to be) a heavy oil and can have limited use for one with less than high speed. This is tentative, as the Anomaly has not reached a lot of people yet, but reports so far are encouraging.

Unless you face heavy oil or have less than average (same as medium) revs, it will be of restricted use and an Element would better serve your purposes.

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tedfields

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Re: Two Balls
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2003, 01:46:26 PM »
I think I sort of mislead everyone. My intent is to have a four ball
arsenal but only using the aforementioned equipment and layouts.
Thanks, Ted