I already knew all the specs and advertised numbers but always look to some help on performance by real world involvement. Goof thanks that was my thought on Agent vs 44. I am thinking about a 6 ball arsenal for young friend who throws like myself (moderate speed, low axis tilt and med axis rotation, higher track) That core type has been very consistent across many conditions just putting together some various shells for breakpoint control and reaction shape. Appreciate all input. Jim, I liked your comment but you can make marbles look good going down a lane.