Curious as to what you guys think i need for carry down. I know this has been addressed numerous times but i tried using the sites search feature with no luck at all. Not sure why either. I'm talking pretty heavy carry down for a medium-heavy condition. I have a ball that works on this condtion (hammer sharp-blade) but it's a LOT more aggressive than what I'm wanting on this. Even with carry down it still hooks 10-15 boards. Needless to say that's my heavy oil ball. Anyways, I have a vendetta black solid, thing returns, barrage, and crisis pearl. Needless to say all of these gets laughed at by the head pin as it slides on by. I've tried the element Au79 with no luck unfortunately. Sold it after a month. Even tried sanding it to 600 grit for carry down like someone on here recommended. So now i'm looking for something else. I was thinking of going with the vendetta sniper since its particle and would bite nearly as hard as my hammer ball. I havent tried the energy line yet and also feel they'd be more hook than what I'm wanting as well. Anyways, I'll leave the choice up to you as to what you guys think.