BallReviews
Equipment Boards => Dyno-Thane => Topic started by: manu57 on August 12, 2005, 01:13:02 AM
-
Does anyone have any specs or know if this ball will be out before the beginning of the season?
-
I don't have any real info on it, but I have heard that the staffers have REALLY liked the test versions of the ball.
I suspect it will be out soon, but not within the next month unless they are going with a double release?
--------------------
-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
-
I'm looking to purchase an Asym/Solid ball "800 grit or so" for the upcoming season. I'm just waiting to see if i should hold out or not.
-
You could e-mail Dyno directly and ask them when they think it will be released...I have yet to ask myself as I'm still testing the Sniper and looking forward to testing the Pure Energy.
From what I've heard it sounds like it's worth the wait, but I'm not sure how soon you want a new ball or when it really is going to be released?
Jim if you read this...you've any info?
Maybe "New Guy" or "other guy" will shed some light on this?
--------------------
-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
-
I think this is going to be an asymetrical ball from what I have heard of it...
--------------------
"You aren't carrying unless it says S-T-O-R-M on the side of the ball." "Nothing hits like a storm"
-
I really want to hold out for this ball if it is a solid, but the new Track Delta1 is looking mighty nice right now. However, I'm intriqued with Dynothane equipment and really want to try this one.
-
quote:
I think this is going to be an asymetrical ball from what I have heard of it...
--------------------
"You aren't carrying unless it says S-T-O-R-M on the side of the ball." "Nothing hits like a storm"
I find that HIGHLY unlikely from a company still under the leadership of Phil Cardinale.
--------------------
American beer is like making love in a canoe. It's f*cking close to water. - Monty Python
If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs. - David Daye
-
Believe it or not it is supposed to be an asymmetric!! But a different kind of asymmetric from what I heard...hard to explain, so I won't even try.
--------------------
-Chris: DJ's Pro Shop : Auburn, MA
-
From previous discussions in this forum it's definitely an Asymetric. I will try to find the previous thread.
-
quote:
quote:
I think this is going to be an asymetrical ball from what I have heard of it...
--------------------
"You aren't carrying unless it says S-T-O-R-M on the side of the ball." "Nothing hits like a storm"
I find that HIGHLY unlikely from a company still under the leadership of Phil Cardinale.
--------------------
However, he (newguy) did mention it in another thread on this, the D/T forum. His position seems to be that the intermediate (or as I call it, the mass bias) differential needs to be much higher than any current balls have for a mass bias/asymmetric core ball to be truly effective. I believe the highest current intermediate differential in the .025 range.
--------------------
Bowling: Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, you only have to get close.
Life: Deal with what is.
-
I was at a trade show thurs and saw the ball. Steve Jaros told me they were hoping for a september release date so that they wouild have it available for the tour. This ball is their first Asymetrical and Steve says that from their tests it will be an awesome ball. There is also a new Energy ball coming out soon. if i remeber right it will be the end of this month
-
Hey Stormed1 - Was it polished? Dull? What color was it?
-
Was not real shiny. Did'nt play real close attention to colors but was darker. One thing Steve did tell me was that the cg was going to be close to inline with the pin and mass bias on all balls to make them easier to drill right or left handed. I did'nt get to see him throw either ball but he was more excited about this and the new Energy quite a bit.
-
That's all I needed to hear. I'm waiting for that release.
-
While I/We appreciate all of Phil's (and Billy's) hard work, I wonder do we really need yet another ball that hooks enough to make Don Carter and Earl Anthony throw with a straight elbow?
Yes, everyone wants to throw Dyno-Thane's latest and greatest but ...
Sigh.
Phil, tell me you didn't join the "band"?
--------------------
Bowling: Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, you only have to get close.
Life: Deal with what is.
-
Could have become the Band Leader with this one.(performance wise) This may redefine the term Asymmetrical.
-
Well, newguy, if it is 800 grit or so I will be happy to be one of the 76 trombones in the big parade.
-
I am ready to join the band too.
--------------------
OnlyBowling
-
Found out it is going to be a Pearl/Solid mix like the High Energy. Unfortunately, that is not what I'm looking for. It looks Like a Rule Delta 1 for me this season.
-
quote:
Found out it is going to be a Pearl/Solid mix like the High Energy. Unfortunately, that is not what I'm looking for. It looks Like a Rule Delta 1 for me this season.
Do you already have a High Energy and/or an AU79 that you are already crossing a Soaker pearl/solid off so quickly?
--------------------
Bowling: Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, you only have to get close.
Life: Deal with what is.
-
From the information I have gotten it is going to be just solid no pearl mix. I would hold off and see what it looks like.
cooksey
--------------------
" Focus the next shot is critical"
AIM:johncooksey24
-
This is their first asymetrical ball right?
--------------------
In Golf, drive for show and putt for dough, in Bowling, strike for show and spare for dough.
-
Hey Charlest I'm trying to put together a 3 maybe 4 ball arsenal. I have a med-lite ball and a spare. I need something for med-heavy. The Pro Shop is telling me to get a UI. I hate that ball only because everyone has one where I bowl and i know there is better out there. Therefore, I have been looking at 800grit solid balls. I bowl on synthetics with what seems to be 90% of the oil by the pins. It almost feels like your bowling down hill. I am a stroker and throw 17-19 MPH by what the machine says. I got an email back from Billy at Dynothane saying it was a mix cover.
Edited on 8/25/2005 9:23 PM
-
quote:
Hey Charlest I'm trying to put together a 3 maybe 4 ball arsenal. I have a med-lite ball and a spare. I need something for med-heavy. The Pro Shop is telling me to get a UI. I hate that ball only because everyone has one where I bowl and i know there is better out there. Therefore, I have been looking at 800grit solid balls. I bowl on synthetics with what seems to be 90% of the oil by the pins. It almost feels like your bowling down hill. I am a stroker and throw 17-19 MPH by what the machine says. I got an email back from Billy at Dynothane saying it was a mix cover.
Edited on 8/25/2005 9:23 PM
You do know how "grabby" those Soaker coverstocks are, don't you?
My only point is, well there's two -
1. you (not you personally) don't know a ball just by whether it's solid, resin, pearl resin, combo resin, particle pearl or particle solid or combo particle.
2. you don't know a ball (what it is, what it will do for you) until you read or see enough tests or try one yourself and really know what it is.
I think it's very presumptuous of you to knock it off (your list of possible useful balls), so to speak without actually knowing about the ball. You may be right, or you could be VERY wrong. We, you, I, everyone (except the DynoThane testers) just do not know a darned thing about this ball.
if you want to go with known balls, that's one thing, but you started this thread.
--------------------
Bowling: Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, you only have to get close.
Life: Deal with what is.
-
I Agree with you 100% Charlest. Being the scientific guy I am, I am very impressed with Dynothane's technology. I am also behind newguy in what he says about Asym balls, and pretty much everything else he's posted here. I really want to try a Dynothane product. You are correct, I do not know how grabby Soaker coverstocks are, and honestly, I have never actually seen a Dynothane ball. They are pretty much off the radar here. Everyone at my lanes in NJ throws Ebonite, Brunswick and Storm for the most part. I have some time before my league starts and I will definitely wait to see what this ball can handle.
-
Alright where is "New Guy", I am waiting to hear why assymet after all he has posted in the last year or so. Many a good conversation has been taken on with the subject of assy vs symet cores and his statements of not making a measureable difference due to the strength (or lack of) by the MB.
-
Thanks otherguy, but I am fed up with my partical balls. I am looking for versatility with the ability to handle carrydown. "IF" the CM does what I think it will do, that is the ball for me.
--------------------
The only difference between Genius and Stupidity is Genius has its Limits
-
Hey Lefty, if you read newguys earlier post " Could have become the Band Leader with this one.(performance wise) This may redefine the term Asymmetrical". I'm sure this will be something very interesting. I don't think Phil would go back on what he has previously said on this message board. He must have figured a way around his bias "no pun intened" of Asym. balls. I can't wait to see how he did it myself.
--------------------
The only difference between Genius and Stupidity is Genius has its Limits
-
OK you've forced me out of hiding.
1) We have a design that has a strong enough Z axis so that it will not move after it has been drilled. It does not migrate toward the largest whole like many, most or all the others do.
2)It is strictly based on physics (centrifugal forces to be exact) and thier distances from the Centrifugal Axis Point
3)The migration is not in an arc as most balls are, it migrates directly across the ball (this would require 2 full pages to explain so trust me on this) If you put tape in your axis and marked it than tape the ending axis at the pins and marked it, than tape several points between the 2 points and see where they lock up like 25 feet,35 feet and 45 feet. you can plot a migration of the axis of rotation. This balls heads nearly straight across.
4)I would not launch a asymmetrical core if it fell under the same category as the existing products on the market. This is different and it is better. We found it lasted way longer into the sessions than current asymmetrical core balls and as you all know that is way I really like symmetrical core balls.
5)We have a perfect match with core and cover and this is the most important aspect of the launch.
-
Thanks for your time, will be interested in the new equip when released. Outside of the marketting and tech jargin what is the performance benefit in laymens terms?
-
Thanks for the info otherguy. Can't wait for it to be released.
--------------------
The only difference between Genius and Stupidity is Genius has its Limits
-
This ball has just been added to the USBC approved list. When can we expect this ball to be available? Leagues start tommorrow, but I am saving spot in my bag for a CM.
--------------------
The only difference between Genius and Stupidity is Genius has its Limits
-
YES YES YES....I can play barn burner Billy!
--------------------
My Dt likes to bash Shawn B.
note the truth>>>>>(Dt..1st .... Shawn 2nd)
VISE AMATEUR STAFF
Dynodaddy@earthlink.net
www.dynothane.com