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Ric Clint

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Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« on: October 26, 2004, 07:04:32 PM »
Just curious... I know that the SOAKEr coverstock is suppose to keep the oil out of the ball... so why would i want to use the ELIXER on the SOAKER coverstock??? I don't know, maybe just a precaution.

I'm so tired of having balls die on me. And I hope all the SOAKER balls and my new THING LIVES actually will live for a long time. But just as a precaution, I'd like to keep some Doc's Elixer on the ball.

I don't know the CHEMICALS involved in the SOAKER coverstock or the CHEMICALS involved in the DOC's ELIXER... so I'm wondering if these 2 can mix and everything be okay? Or will the 2 Chemical properties hurt each other in the long run?


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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2004, 12:52:48 PM »
Ric, I haven’t used the Elixer on my DT balls.  So far I have the Anomaly and the Thing.  I thought the Elixer would defeat the purpose of the coverstock.

Anomaly doesn’t get much use, maybe 20 games total on it.  Haven’t noticed any change in reaction.  

 My Thing though has about 150 games.  Unless the house has changed the shot on me, the ball is about 5 boards stronger now than when I picked it up.

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Ric Clint

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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2004, 02:38:11 AM »
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We have heard from many Soaker Coverstock users and many say the ball actually gets stronger and none have said it loses performance. I recommend simply using soap and water. I do not suggest and chemical cleaners, IF it ain't broke don't fix it.


New Guy,

So I shouldn't use any chemical cleaners on any of the SOAKER balls, like my Thing Lives... just only soap and water???

Well, I've used Track's Clean N' Dull on it like 3-4 times... is my ball still okay if I quit using that stuff on it? Did I mess up any of the chemical's in the Thing Lives with this Clean N' Dull???

Please let me know...


Thanks!



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Ric Clint

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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2004, 03:21:58 PM »
New Guy???

I've used Track's Clean N' Dull on it like 3-4 times... is my ball still okay if I quit using that stuff on it? Did I mess up any of the chemical's in the Thing Lives with this Clean N' Dull???

Am I okay, or is my ball messed up now?



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Ric Clint

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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2004, 03:41:33 PM »
Thanks Phil!

I'll quit using that stuff on this particular ball.

But on your recommendation of using just soap and water... how often should this be done?  I've heard some say they never clean there SOAKER balls and yet they just keep getting stronger!

Does it matter which kind of soap??? Dawn, Joy... or any kind of hand soap???

I'm really excited about the Thing Lives and i want to keep this ball going strong. I recently shot 697 with this ball on a shot that not many other people in this 32 team league had any area on.

So, any particular soap recommendation???



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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2004, 04:34:46 PM »
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We have heard from many Soaker Coverstock users and many say the ball actually gets stronger and none have said it loses performance. I recommend simply using soap and water. I do not suggest and chemical cleaners, IF it ain't broke don't fix it.


Last time I checked soap and water had chemicals in them too.

Water: chlorine, flouride, calcium, iron, copper, and many other things that are either added or not completely removed from tap water.

Soap: triclosan, magnesium and sodium dodecylbenzene sulfonate, ammonium, laureth sulfate, lauryl polyglucose, SD alcohol 3-A, lauramidopropylamine oxide, sodium xylene sulfonate, pentasodium pentatate, DMDM hydantoin, sodium bisulfate, etc.

Maybe you should have said use Ivory and distilled water since distilled water is 100% pure and Ivory is 99.44% pure. What might that .66% be though? (chemicals?)

I know I am coming across as a smart A' but I think it is the easiest way to get my point across with emphasis and that was not exactly a bright statement considering every cleaner uses chemicals.

Do you really think that Track or any other company is going to put a cleaner on the market that will damage a ball.
I say use "Ball" cleaners, since it helps to support the industry.
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Re: Is it safe to use Doc's ELIXER on a SOAKER ball?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2004, 09:21:37 PM »
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And by the way, chlorine, calcium, iron, and copper are elements


I know this but:
Chlorine is acidic.
Calcium, Iron, Copper, and other solid impurities in tap water may cause build up in the coverstock pores.
Basically what I was trying to say is that any "ball" cleaner or Doc's Magic elixer are not going to hurt the coverstock any more than soap and water could.
Not to mention that many of the chems in soap are petroleum based, and petroleum products are not good for any type of plastic or rubber because petroleum causes plastics and rubbers to harden. That is why there are no petroleum or silica based products in "ball" cleaners. You may say alcohol is but it is grain based not petroleum based.
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