Who said they were on a site??? A close out list you usualy get from your local distributor if your a pro shop, they come out with the list of stuff that didnt move very well and have a moderate inventory of. Yes the 357 magnum was on or distibutors close out list, it doesnt mean its discontinued or anything it just means it isnt moveing very well for them so its a close out. I rarely go out and by the latest and greatest ball because I can wait for a few months and save 30,40 sometimes 60-70 dollars on a ball I want if I am patient enough to wait. I see people on here all the time selling stuff thats on close out so show a little patience and reep the rewards lol.