Author Topic: polishing a Vendetta Sniper. (Read 3863 times)

Nuskoolstyleoldskoolballs · « **on:** January 30, 2006, 12:51:54 PM »

Will polishing a Vendetta Sniper, pin under ring, cg over thumb to the right, make it go longer and have a sharper breakpoint? I noticed tonight that it hit well, and hook a good bit, but it was smooth. I want to see if altering the cover will give me more of a sharp break, so it doesnt use up alot of its energy when it reads the midlane.
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Pin_Daddy · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2006, 12:52:41 AM »

Replied to this in your other post in the misc forum as well...basically DynoThane's site states that polish may be helpful on the sniper for low-to-medium speed players, but states that higher rev players would probably be better suited with a length drilling.

Try it if you want, and if it doesn't work change it back. I would think with polish on an already smooth 2000 grit surface might be a recipe for throwing past the breakpoint.

Another adjustment you might consider would be to just take the surface grit up without actually polishing, say 3000 or 4000 grit.
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charlest · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:02:29 AM »

as pin daddy says,
take surface to 4000 grit with an Abralon pad,
or
sand to 800 or 1000 grit, then add LIGHT dose of polish. TEST. If necessary, add more polish as desired.
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tekneek · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:56:06 AM »

depending on what you are looking for, I have taken my down to 1500 wet sand then applied two coats of perfect-it 3m compound, I get great skid up front and a more angular breakpoint, 4-1/2 x 3-1/2 layout with the pin just over the top of the ring, the lower edge of the pin is touching the top of the ring insert. Love it, 729 with it Wed night
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Nuskoolstyleoldskoolballs · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2006, 09:49:43 AM »

Well, how would i go about doing that with the Abralon pad? I am new to doing ball work, such as changing surfaces other than with sandpaper and a scotch brite. I also use the Lustre King when i need to throw polish on the ball. I am looking to start dabbling in the more advanced stuff, just need some instruction.
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tekneek · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2006, 10:37:04 AM »

try the link below, very informative

http://www.jayhawkbowling.com/Pro_s_Corner/Resurfacing_Tips/resurfacing.html
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2006, 02:35:42 PM »

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I would warn you if you are going to polish this ball. Out of the box for me it out hooked most of my stuff from DT, so I hit it with a hard coat of black magic and it suddenly is the longest DT ball I have. About as long as my Crisis Pearl. It's drilled pin up, 6x5, a pretty common drill for me as I have a high track and high rev rate, but adding the polish made it a great dry lane ball, instead of a heavy oil ball. I don't think I have ever owned a ball that had this big of a difference from dull to shine.

DT_Husker

FWIW my experience with Black Magic's polish leads me to suggest that you did not just polish the ball and the difference in hook and length that you saw was due to large amount of polish you used and the fact that it probably clogs the pores of a resin ball. This reduces the lane grabbing ability and greatly decreases the overall hook of the ball. The effect is very much like using auto wax, which as we all know is a major no-no!

My suggestion is, if you do use BM, use very small amounts, with very light pressure, for short periods of time on the spinner.

The Sniper is NOT a dry lanes ball.

I have found another grit-less polish to be more effective than BM and it does not clog the pores and reduce hook: Brunswick's High Gloss polish.

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Nuskoolstyleoldskoolballs · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2006, 10:17:37 PM »

Well, i ended up going to the alley, and using the spinner there. I took and used Ebonite Power House Factory Poilsh that was made for partice balls. It was 800 grit. After one application to the ball, on the spinner, i got the reaction i was looking for, snappier on the backends. Really am loving my sniper now. Hopefully tomorrow i shoot 650 plus. thanks for the info guys.
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newguy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2006, 10:11:47 AM »

It always amazes me when bowlers take balls designed to hook and drill them to hook less or polish them to go straighter. We design product lines like the Vendetta line so as to give the proper performance on a wide variety of conditions. The Sniper was not designed to be polished. It was designed for heavier conditions and carrydown. If a snapping finish is desired than the Pearl or the Black Vendetta are the balls of choice.
I'm certain that 90% of the bowlers on this site have at least 3 balls, yet i'm just as certain that the same bowlers end up with similar reactions from each of the balls after they do their tweaking, polishing and sandings, not to mention drillings. Remember not all balls work on all conditions. Especially in todays environment.
Bowlers should learn a valuable lesson. The manufactures for the most part are the experts and if a ball is sold with a dull surface on it there is a good chance that it will perform best in a dull state and on a specific condition. By changing the surface dramatically you risk the chance of making it perform like a product you already have or it may not perform at all.
We at D/T design arsenals if you need less hook we sell it in that line, best advice I can give is to leave it in box condition or sightly tweak it, use our suggested maintenance programs (not the one you think is best).
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scotts33 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2006, 10:15:38 AM »

quote:
One of my favorite expressions is " Just because you hang out at an auto repair shop that doesn't make you a mechanic"

Phil does it make you a shade tree mechanic?

FWIW--I totally agree with you.
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Nuskoolstyleoldskoolballs · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:52:46 AM »

I simply did NOT like the way the ball read the midlane. I love the way it carries, but would have liked it if the ball gets down the lane just a little further, and that is what i did to it.
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I am the official PRINCIPAL of the NU SKOOL. In my skool, all pupils will throw OLD SKOOL equipment. One may have a new ball or two, but the primary ball must be OLD SKOOL. Newer is not always better.

newguy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:28:34 PM »

Why do you feel it necessary to defend your reasoning, my comments were not directed at any one person. It is a general concern of mine, that is the reason for my comments.

Nuskoolstyleoldskoolballs · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:31:56 PM »

I wasn't directing my comments at anyone in particular myself. Just stating the reason i did it so that you and anyone else who reads the post can understand the reasoning behing my actions

That is all.
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bass · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:19:49 PM »

I picked up a Sniper about 4 months ago.
Threw it in a couple of different houses in my area never felt I was using its full potential.
Put a touch of polish on it.
Now this ball comes out of the bag a heck of a lot more.
Gets more length and pop out of it.
otherwise I'd have gotten rid of it.
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bamaster · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:57:15 PM »

Most of my equipment has a touch of polish on it. Mainly has to do with the lanes conditions I play on and the fact that I have more revs than ball speed.

But nothing I have has a ton of polish.

Although I used to have a Vendetta Particle (the original) that was shined up real good. That was my favorite ball. Arcy and hit great!
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