Post by: onformula1 on February 29, 2004, 12:02:30 PM
Post by: jensm on March 01, 2004, 03:14:01 AM
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Regards,
jensm
Post by: charlest on March 01, 2004, 06:18:33 AM
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Post by: kendog on March 01, 2004, 10:02:17 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: bamaster on March 01, 2004, 10:45:54 AM
Of course it needs some dry... all balls do... but because the pin is so far from my PAP it stores energy very well and it just releases all of it at once in the backend.
I don't suggest sanding it down. That will make the ball jsut like a normal Thing.
Are you certain about the layout? I mean, are you sure th epin is 4-1/4" from your PAP? I talk to people and they just say the pin is close to where the finger holes are in the picture. But it's just for illustration only. What matters most is the distance from the pin to the PAP.
Tony
http://www.allBowling.com
Post by: kendog on March 01, 2004, 03:14:00 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on March 01, 2004, 05:10:22 PM
For me, this ball is actually similar to the Element in the amount of head and midlane oil it will handle. It is not particularly good on carrydown -- it is a pearl after all -- though it is the best of my pearls, but even then it works best when drilled to "go long and flip late". This saves up energy and allows it to go through carrydown more easily than it might otherwise. Frankly, this ball is better on fresh oil with fresh backends, but if you are going to use it late, I wouldn't set it up the way you have.
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Post by: kendog on March 02, 2004, 07:36:58 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: bamaster on March 02, 2004, 10:35:34 AM
Almost all of mine seemed to go longer when it was brand new. And then they got a tad stronger. And then I had to polish them to control the backend. Then they seem to show their true colors.
Remember, it IS a go-long ball by design. You might find it performs differently when starting the ball right of where your other equipment would be. I'm convinced this ball is a beast in the backends, so if you play the oil and get it into the dry later, it'll be more angular.
As a last resort, you can a little resin polish to make it tackier (not some of that 'go longer' stuff), that might help.
Tony
http://www.allBowling.com
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on March 02, 2004, 06:11:40 PM
quote:
I know all....Big Brother is watching..
Stop it Phil. You're scaring me....
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings."
Post by: Elite_Digger on March 03, 2004, 10:24:19 PM
But to get back to the original topic....give this ball a little time. Let it get tracked up and broken in. If you bowl like 20+ games on it and still don't like it, then mess with the surface. But patience will reward you....
Digs
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Never argue with an idiot....They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Edited on 3/3/2004 11:19 PM
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on March 04, 2004, 10:22:45 AM
onformula1, let the ball have time. As I noted earlier, the drill you put on the ball probably isn't allowing it to show its best, even given the caveats above. Practice with it, let it get worn in.
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings."
Post by: jimensminger on March 04, 2004, 10:51:47 AM
My Thing Returns was almost set back a few grades,..until one day,..on the right condition it started getting straight A's.....the SOAKER is different, and takes a little time to get adjusted,..jim
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Post by: crankncrash on March 04, 2004, 04:32:04 PM
Post by: onformula1 on March 05, 2004, 10:19:13 PM
I wet sanded the ball with 1000 grit wet and dry then cleaned the ball with clean and dull, WOW! what a difference this ball is so much better! very smooth with a very nice hook right at the end! I am very, very happy with this ball and it has a great hit too. IMHO this ball should come from the factory with this set-up and now fits nicely between my Phenom unleashed and my Dry Heat. I posted easy 200+ scores all night (4-games) with very little effort and messing around. (Moving up and down the boards, & different targets)
THANX FOLKS!!!
Go Dyno-thane!
Post by: the prince on March 06, 2004, 08:43:09 AM
How's this for a crazy idea, but I think it has merit: Balls that have a dull surface will tend to get shinier as you use them, they need to be cleaned and scuffed to retain their "box" condition. Polished balls will tend to get duller (on the track) from normal use. I think the reason that some of you are getting better results with the Thing Returns after a few games is the track is getting a little surface on it, so it's not overreacting on the over/under oil patters that a lot of us bowl on in league.
Maybe the King of Bowling can weigh in on my theory, I'm pretty much ignorant when it comes to equipment but maybe I made a lucky guess on this one?
Post by: kendog on March 09, 2004, 07:53:49 AM
I had my T/R polished last night. This is one pretty ball. Threw it on a fresh med-vol/med-long/length with mild back ends. I Threw the ball the first two games just to see what I could do with it. I found that I could get to the pocket very easily and I had strikes or nine counts in all frames these two games; this ball now gets through the heads sooo beautifully! The weak backends didn't lend themselves to consistent carry for me, as I left seven ten pins in those two games,(covered 5 of them)still, I was looking at 425 going into the last game. I could see that this ball is going to truly shine when I get it on shorter patterns or a slightly lighter volume in the heads.
I switched to my Blueberry for the last game to finish up with a respectable (with my 202 ave) 671. This ball is going to be a good fit right behind my Blueberry which is at 1200 wet sand with Elixir. Can't wait to get this ball on the right shot to really see it perform.
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes