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DynoLess Daddy

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New Element Zr40
« on: January 15, 2006, 08:36:49 AM »
Yo Yo yo!  It is real smooth and forgiving off the back end. I was able to play the tug area and still carry. A definite keeper compared to my other elements.

If you  play house and need to move in and control the lane but still keep a strong move to the pocket then this is for you!!!

rec the ball last week and had to let Billy know that I finally found an element that might be better than my vendettas!

40 ft House.....smooth and strong arc....38 foot house skid...Hard arc
37ft sport.....Midlane control
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charlest

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2006, 10:29:42 AM »
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CHAS,..great choice,..



I kind of hoped so. have to wait til my hand heals enough to try it, though.

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I don't think D/T floods the market,..but each and every new ball (usually
every 6-8 weeks) gets better and better...



I do see the innovation on each ball, and I think that's great, but as you can see in my reply to new guy, I remained confused as many balls in the "premium" line seem to overlap to my eyes. Now, as seen in my reply, I assume the "Premium" line is just a class now and he has 4 separate ball lines, in his mind's eye, in that class of balls. That confused me and I wait for him to explain it to me in a little more detail or confirm my assumptions.

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One thing about our equipment is that there always seems to be a little more innovation in each ball that keeps them very contemporary...although I'll be the first to admitt, that I never leave home without my THING, Ven BLACK, or AU79,..all which have 100's of games on them...jim


Had Thing, Element; have AU79; still use it. Hopefully the HE will help me re-see the Dyno-Thane "light".

I guess the "thing" that bugs me most about the ZR40 is I love control pearls; yet they are so rare. I tried to make my AU79 into one and failed, so far. Now I just bought the HE, drilled it to try to make it emulate control, after I polish it up slighty and Bingo! the ZR40 pops up designed from the word, "go", for control.
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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2006, 10:34:24 AM »
Charlest give Phil a break at least he killed the Anomoly line inside joke you know from me LMFAO

In fact Phil never said ball was a flop but one of his ex reps did tell this to me personally, that is why they came out with the Thing Lives so fast. It was the ball the Anomoly was supposed to be but was not, trust me when 2 time high roller champ Paul Renteria can only hook a ball 5-6 boards and this guy's normal game is inside 4th arrow there was a problem with the ball. I still stayed with them because i figured it was a bad batch or missing the resin like my energy was that i kept and sold to another BR memer who loves the ball having no resin and a big differential. He posts how great the ball is on the energy post and has thanked me 3 times now, so mistakes happen no big deal.

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2006, 10:42:13 AM »
Chas,..you givin me a headache,..

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2006, 10:54:22 AM »
Apparently we need to be able to recondition bowlers thinking, I don't think so. It is not that difficult to figure if a ball has the same name than it is part of an extension.
Element, Element Au79, Element Zr40 sounds like a line to me.  It has been that way for the past 18 years that I have been designing balls. One would assume that the black hammer and the blue hammer and burgundy hammer were a line or the Zone, Danger Zone, Danger Zone Black Ice etc were a line, so why do the rules change today.
The Vendetta is a line, the Thing was a line (all 3 complimented each other), the Energy (same core 3 different covers was certainly a line) all 3 complimented each other.  The Critical Mass (ha ha ) as you stated incorrectly, The Centrifugal Mass is the start of our Assymetrical line. By the way the Critical Mass was followed by the Code Red (another line). We probably do the best job at building arsenals and are on this site preaching less random purchases and more arsenal building than anyone else. Hope this clears it up.

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2006, 11:11:23 AM »
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Element, Element Au79, Element Zr40 sounds like a line to me.  
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The Vendetta is a line, the Thing was a line (all 3 complimented each other), the Energy (same core 3 different covers was certainly a line) all 3 complimented each other.


I think his confusion is in the fact that the Elements, Energies, and Things are all at the premium price point.  Having several lines at that price point is not common and that's where the confusion was.

I was also confused, being used to equating "price point" and "line" with many other companies.  It is obvious to me that the Elements sharing a core as they do makes them complementary in some fashion, but what distinguishes the Element line from the Thing line or the Energy line?  All at the same price point, and taken as a whole, there appears to be a lot of overlap.  

Yes, you could easily build a reasonably complete arsenal using only Elements (though it'd be necessary to include the long-defunct original Element) or only the Energies or only the Things.  But why chose one line over another?  That's where some of the confusion was and, in my mind, remains.

Don't get me wrong, they're probably all great balls, I only have the Thing Lives and it's great.  At this point, if I get another ball any time soon, it will probably be another DT.

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2006, 11:23:12 AM »
I think Tony should separate the website better and put each ball in its own line instead of the way the site is setup now. I have bought every dynothane ball over the last few years and every ball has been very good and something different. It surprises me of how much one core can do with the different coverstocks the Vendetta series, IMO the Vendetta series is why Brunswick came out with there mid priced line the BVP series. It just proves its the cover more than the core but if you have a solid design like the vendetta core you can virtually build any reaction shape you wish too.

I can honestly say that Dynothane balls go with me every session i bowl nowdays, if i go practice somewhere different i bring one of CM's with me. I can already tell you the Zr40 will be with me alot, i did a make up for league and my low game so far is 196 with the zr40. I am hoping it breaks in about 20 games like tekneek posted in another post that the ball will handle carrydown better when the cover breaks in better.

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2006, 08:37:12 PM »
From what I have seen and heard the only Dyno balls that haven't been embraced are the Anomaly and the Energy (without resin).

I've had great succes with pure and high energies, the au79, and vendetta maxx...I'm a sold DynoThane man.

IMHO seems to be the only ball company around that concentrates on making high performance unique (from each other) balls that don't wear out or break within 50 games or less.
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DynoLess Daddy

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2006, 11:26:05 PM »
Here is the latest. I decided to let my pro shop guy throw my ball. He managed to shoot a 300 on friday night. Today he went 298. Not bad for just changing the grips and blowing up.
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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2006, 06:35:19 AM »
The funny thing for me is I loved my Anomaly.
It was one of the biggest hooking balls i've ever thrown(and i've thrown alot of different ones).
Can't wait to try out my Zr40.
With Billy Y.'s help this ball should be a nice complement to my Sniper and Thing Lives.


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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2006, 07:10:21 AM »
Well I've fixed the thumb and have gotten another group of games on mine...

...Threw it last night against my Centrifugal Mass on left overs from an earlier league.  With the CM I was playing around 18-19 at the arrows and out to about 5-7, which utilized the bump that existed nicely.  On the same line the Zr40 was a bit too strong in the midlane and it read the dry to quickly.  A simple shift of my feet left and the ball caught enough head oil to push far enough down the lane to be effective.  I then moved in about another 3 boards and the ball was unstoppable...even had a 300 in there (ya I know it's only practice).  The ball is really starting to come alive and I've had some time to better understand the ball's reaction.  I still can't believe how strong in the midlane this ball is for a pearl resin.  I believe that I know have another option to compliment my Vendetta Sniper for being able to get into the oil a little bit more, etc.  We'll see what next week's practice session brings as I compare it against my Sniper.
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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2006, 12:13:47 PM »
Sorry to take so long Pin Daddy. I decided on a 4x4 layout but drilled the ring finger directly into the pin. My driller said if he squints his eye enough... I am right at 1 oz of side. So this ball lopes a little too much for my liking. He is going to take some weight out a lttle at a time until I can see more midlane... The loping created a little bit more skid snap than I wanted to see... therefore a couple 2-8-10s more than I wanted to see as well!

More to the point... this ball HITS very hard, when I was in the 1-3. WOW!

Regarding lines... I can't wait for another assymetric... picked up my CM after the first game in one of my leagues and shot 256-279... almost unfair to use...


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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2006, 01:43:44 PM »
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Sorry to take so long Pin Daddy.

Regarding lines... I can't wait for another assymetric... picked up my CM after the first game in one of my leagues and shot 256-279... almost unfair to use...


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No problem...just happy you thought of me

Well now i'm really torn, want to get both the zr40 and the CM.

Might just have to break down and get both.
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AllAirForceTwice

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Re: New Element Zr40
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2006, 07:53:54 PM »
Windoor, that would be a great 4-ball arsenal.
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