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mijakame

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High Energy vs The Thing Lives
« on: May 18, 2005, 04:13:08 AM »
I understand New Guy's comments about not just comparing base specs to compare balls.  So help us understand the real effective difference between The Thing Lives and the High Energy.  We know that the HE is a Pearl/Solid Soaker ATC with the POP core vs the TTL's Solid Soaker X with its TriPower core.  

When we look at Dynothane's website overview we see that the HE is supposed to have just slightly less length, all things being equal, but is recommended for just slightly heavier oil.  The HE is also shown to have a slightly stronger back end, again with presumably all other things being equal.  

But there is no real meaningful difference that can be discerned just by reviewing the information on the Dyno-Thane site, at least with my level of ignorance.  

It is fine by me if there is no significant difference and the Energy series is just the new line with a slightly tweaked version of the coverstock - I understand the economic imperative in the current ball market to keep new product showing up.   I would just like to have a clear understanding.

Anybody's thoughts are appreciated.


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Goof1073

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Re: High Energy vs The Thing Lives
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 12:28:29 PM »
Funny you should post this question today...as I took my Thing Lives with me last night and A/B'd it to my High Energy.  Both are laid out very similar as they are my test balls.

My TL has a little more thumb weight and about 50 more games on it, but on the pattern I was bowling on I actually found the TL to be slightly stronger than the HE.  I would put the TL at about 3 feet earlier and maybe a few boards stronger.

Now it wasn't a totally fair comparison as my TL was the last NIB 16 that I drilled, but it atleast let me compare the two.

Overall I like the reaction of the HE better.  I think it evens out the condition a little better and reads the transtion really well.  The TL seems to pop just a little bit more / reacts to dry more.  This could explain why I saw the TL as being earlier as it read the transtion harder than the HE.  This is the first Hydrid coverstock that I've tried and I like what I've seen of it thus far.
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newguy

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Re: High Energy vs The Thing Lives
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2005, 10:20:25 AM »
Just a quick point to remember the Soaker covers get stronger the more they are used. Did say he had 50 games on the TL.

mijakame

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Re: High Energy vs The Thing Lives
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2005, 11:05:35 AM »
Thanks for the observations.  Goof's note that the HE "evens out the condition" and other guy's note that the "new base reactive coverstock, ATC, is not as sensitive to different amounts of oil on the lane" are a satisyfing match up of theory and experience.  And new guy's note about the soaker covers getting stronger as they break-in also matches my experience.  

A DIVERGENT COMMENT:  My perception is that the congruence of the above comments is unusual; often when reading other people's reviews about equipment I can find little reliable consistency.  After posting my HE vs TTL question I carefully reviewed and cross compared BTM and BJ and user reviews and the website presentation for TTL, TTR, Energy, and High Energy and also compared those with my own experience with my best attempt to adjust for release, style and drilling.  My conclusion is that, in general, reading other people's comments, even after screening out the the useless "hits like a mack truck" blather, is quite interesting as entertainment but not all that useful for actual buying decisions.  There are too many contradictions and ambiguities in the information.  

I do trust Dyno-Thane's basic presentation of the condition fit of the ball to be accurate because it is in their best long-term interest to be accurate and they also seem to be an organization with some integrity after following them closely for a few years (and comparing them to other companies).

But unless you read a review by someone who you know to be careful and reliable in their assessment who ALSO matches your bowling style it seems to me that you simply have to buy a ball and drill it up (2-3-4 times) and expect to have a significant percentage of them join the crowd that is helping prop up the garage wall or fill out the donor balls at the local lanes.  

But I still have a lot to learn, I've only been at it with a real intent to learn the game for three years.  So maybe I'm just bumping up against my own confusions (lot of fun though).        
 

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jimensminger

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Re: High Energy vs The Thing Lives
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2005, 11:48:42 AM »
mijakame,..wow, that's some heavy reading. I like your take on reading reviews,..entertaining, but little substance. I kinda agree with you but believe me if you read this board enough, and frequently,..you'll soon realize that there are a few people on here that really do know what they are talking about,..and then there are all the others,

...Comparing bowling balls one against the other is a very individual observation..the variables involved are too many to list.....what works for me doesn't work for everyone,..the test conditions are always different,..etc,..etc. Like you said, unless you know who's writting the review, and trust their analysis,..ball buying can in fact be a crap shoot. That's where a good pro shop operator is a great asset...good luck.