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DukeHarding

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Question?
« on: January 25, 2006, 02:05:59 AM »
Never having rolled a Dynothane...what sets it off from other ball manufacturer's lines?
Saw one on the rack Monday night bowling...Don't see a lot of them.
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Re: Question?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2006, 10:20:45 AM »
TLC,..that goes into each ball from start to finish..
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 10:27:18 AM »
funny Jim.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 10:37:18 AM »
It's true.
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shelley

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 10:47:45 AM »
When you get down to it, what separates any ball from any manufacturer apart?  I firmly believe that on the appropriate condition, any appropriate ball is just as good as any other.  Does that make the Desert Heat comparable to a Scorching Inferno?  No.

What sets them apart in my mind isn't hit, carry, roll, or reaction.  It's Soaker.  As I understand it (so you know it's not my experience), it lasts significantly longer than otherwise comparable coverstocks.  That's why, when I went to the Ball Fairy on Monday, I got a Thing Lives.  As infrequently as I can buy a ball, I'd like to try something that will last me three or four hundred games.

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802dave

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 10:55:13 AM »
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As infrequently as I can buy a ball, I'd like to try something that will last me three or four hundred games.


Ditto!  I've been looking, analyzing, etc... for a couple months now and have pretty well settled on Dyno-thane, but may still buy a Vapor Zone - it seems to be a lot like "The Thing Lives" but quicker-revving.  As soon as I get a little extra cash, I be seeing the "ball fairy" as well.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 10:59:36 AM »
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Ditto! I've been looking, analyzing, etc... for a couple months now and have pretty well settled on Dyno-thane, but may still buy a Vapor Zone - it seems to be a lot like "The Thing Lives" but quicker-revving.
If you like the look of a TL, but want think you want a "quicker-revving" ball then I would look at the Centrifugal Mass...with the correct surface / drilling this ball is just a beast!!
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shelley

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 11:02:11 AM »
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Ditto!  I've been looking, analyzing, etc... for a couple months now and have pretty well settled on Dyno-thane, but may still buy a Vapor Zone - it seems to be a lot like "The Thing Lives" but quicker-revving.  As soon as I get a little extra cash, I be seeing the "ball fairy" as well.


Might be a little quicker revving, the RG is a little lower in the VZ compared to the TL.  But the TL has an 800-grit dull cover (I have to say that mine doesn't look like the picture, it's much darker, and blockbusterbowling.com, who usually has real pics on their site, doesn't for many DT balls) compared to the semi-shiny VZ.  Probably it's a bit of a wash in the end.

So far, I like my TL.  But it's only got about 5 games on it and I hear that Soaker needs a break-in period moreso than many other covers.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2006, 11:12:54 AM »
you will find after 21 or so games it will begin to open up more and increase hook potential
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 11:20:05 AM »
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Might be a little quicker revving, the RG is a little lower in the VZ compared to the TL.  But the TL has an 800-grit dull cover (I have to say that mine doesn't look like the picture, it's much darker, and blockbusterbowling.com, who usually has real pics on their site, doesn't for many DT balls) compared to the semi-shiny VZ.  Probably it's a bit of a wash in the end.

So far, I like my TL.  But it's only got about 5 games on it and I hear that Soaker needs a break-in period moreso than many other covers.

SH


My problem deciding what I really need or want, is I've been back bowling for a year now and don't have much equipment to compare to.  I have a Columbia Aftershock which lopes a bit and finishes strong (I've lost a bit of confidence in this ball), a Hammer 3D Superhook (revs quick with a continuous backend), and a Columbia Big Bully (quick-rev, not a strong backend ball - good heavy oil ball).

I want something to replace the Aftershock; quicker-revving, strong backend.  The CM certainly looks like it would work great for me; I have it ranked as the top ball for heavier-oil house shots.  It's strong and I don't have a lot of hand, so it seems a good match for me.  

My present proshop guy, that has never seen me bowl, thinks I should go with something weaker...  Another proshop guy, not as experienced, that has seen me bowl, thinks "The One" would be a good fit.  I don't think The One has enough backend for me; I've seen a couple guys throwing it where I bowl, they have a lot more hand than I do, it works well for them.  I don't have near the hand they do!  Hence, I think the CM would work for me.  

I generally play straight up (or a very small swing) about the 8-board on a medium house shot; this is when a guy with The One is swinging it across the 4th arrow out to 5 and back...

What do you think?

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shelley

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 11:39:51 AM »
If you're speed-dominated like I am, lower-revs but medium speed (you throw a little harder than I do), then I can certainly see The One as being thrown through the breakpoint for you.  The CM would probably be a better choice for medium-heavy, in that case.  It's odd that you don't see The One as having much backend, because everyone I've seen throw it has almost struggled with having too much backend.  The CM should start a little sooner for you, being dull out of the box, and the asymmetric core should give you some angularity.

If the TL gets stronger as I put more games on it, it'll be exactly what I'm looking for, Steve.

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802dave

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 11:46:19 AM »
BTM had a footnote on The One, it said something like - the amount of backend you get with this ball is pretty dependent on your amount of hand...  Knowing I am speed dominant, the CM seems like a better fit for me.

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802dave

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2006, 01:47:18 PM »
CM vs The One:
A theoretical question for you: The One has a box finish of 4000 and a BTM backend rank of 14.5.  If you knock the box finish down to 1-2000 wouldn’t the backend become weaker?  And the same for the CM, which is a solid/pearl mix, box finish… I’m not sure; a BTM backend rank of 16.0; if you polish the CM up a bit as suggested by some on here, wouldn’t the backend get stronger?

With the above info being very subjective, I know it really doesn’t work out that black & white on the lanes, but you see where I’m going with my thinking.  I don’t have a lot of hand, it just makes a lot more sense for me to get the CM and polish it as necessary and definitely end up with a strong backend ball; rather than taking a chance on The One.  If it (One) squirts too much in the box finish and I dull the cover, it doesn’t make sense to me that it would finish strong enough for me.  But that’s my level of experience talking too…

Thanks!
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Re: Question?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2006, 01:56:20 PM »
The best darn coverstocks period!

Some pretty good cores as well now that I think about...heck Dyno-Thane just know how to build a great hitting, long-lasting ball




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802dave

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Re: Question?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2006, 02:20:44 PM »
I'm definitely sold on the Soaker coverstock!

I'm still interested though what you have to say about my theoretical question on the backend reactions with cover adjustments on the CM & the One.

Thanks!
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