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Ric Clint

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Thing Lives and cleaning process
« on: November 24, 2004, 06:04:17 PM »

In another post linked below, we talked about cleaning the SOAKER balls with ONLY soap and hot water and NO chemical type cleaners...

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?ReplyID=449428&ForumID=75&CategoryID=2&TopicID=66149

But here's my nest question:

I'm still loving my Thing Lives... and still scoring great, but I've noticed that with my Thing Lives that I keep sanded to 600 grit, that over about 8-10 games that it starts to get what looks to be lane oil on the ball kind of like it's getting polished up over time by lane oil (every ball does this if not cleaned, you've all seen it)... and the ball stops hooking up as strong in the backend as a "fresh" 600 grit sand with Scotchbrite.

But when I wash it off in a bucket of Hot Water and DAWN for about 2-3 minutes and then re-sand it back to 600 grit, that it gets strong again.

So my question is can I keep washing it down every 10 games with DAWN and Hot Water and will this ball still be ok over the long period of time... or will this cleaning process hurt the ball if done this often and after many different times?




 

Ric Clint

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2004, 03:04:29 AM »
No responses?

I'm hurt. I'm almost in tears.




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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2004, 09:04:25 AM »
hehe... I'd help, but I don't clean my balls.  Wait... that didn't come out right.  I mean, I rarely take a cleaning solution to remove lane conditioner and residue from my bowling equipment.  hehe

I have a hard time thinking that Dawn, which is a type of degreaser, will do any harm to a bowling ball.  It isn't chemical, in the sense that it will change the coverstock composition (like acetone could).  

I'll wait for newguy to chime in.

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2004, 09:20:55 AM »
Unlike like Bamaster I do practice hygiene. Regarding my bowling equipment I have never in 2 years cleaned the surface of any of the balls I use. This is for 2 reasons. 1- I use my equipment as a test regarding the performance life of the ball. 2- I have not seen any reduction in any of the soaker balls performance but have seen increase performance over time.
Regarding this thread, I noticed Ric Clint saying he constantly sanded the ball with 600 as well as cleaning. It Is my belief that an occasional soap bath on the resin balls should be sufficient but on the soaker covers no maintenance is required. I think Ric Clint has not given the cover the opportunity to cure or break in and get stronger as per the reports on the soaker covers. My suggestion is to stop sanding and cleaning for about 20 to 30 games and see if the performance gets even stronger.

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2004, 03:04:45 PM »
OK, after years of using ball cleaners I am going to try to quit... I use an Anomaly and a Thing Returns at my home house... I use Track Clean-n-Dull as my all-purpose base cleaner mainly because it doesn't alter surfaces. However, I do get a ton of dirt and grime off the ball right after I get home from the lanes, more so on the Anomaly naturally. So Mr C, are you saying this black stuff on my rag is not clogging the porous part of the coverstock and reducing the friction potential? With ~15 games on each, I admit the reaction is stronger by a board or two... There is a barely discernable track in both balls since they are my first D/Ts and have the most games. I was going to attribute that to the "tracking up" of the surface... I guess I'll save my money on cleaners and put in the pot games!!!
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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 08:53:28 AM »
For some bowlers 2 more boards of hook would be a 50% increase. Clean the black spots with soap and water or rub them off with a towel if you think they are in the flare or track area.

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2004, 09:51:19 AM »
I usually just rub some of that ointment my doctor gave me and wash with that smelly shampoo... the black spots go away in a few days.

Wait... uh, did I say that out loud?

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2004, 12:14:07 PM »
Yes.  You can. And the dullish soakers need an occasional "dull down" to keep at their best.
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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2004, 12:51:23 PM »
Oh I forgot to ask... For the Vendatta line, would it still be appropriate to maintain my current coverstock cleaning regimen? Seems to help the VPP and the VP I have punched up... I like em' like my women... "Squeeky clean"! LOL.
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Ric Clint

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Re: Thing Lives and cleaning process
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2004, 12:27:53 AM »
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Yes.  You can. And the dullish soakers need an occasional "dull down" to keep at their best.


This is kind of what I was talking about. Out of the box I sanded my Thing Lives down to 600 because I wanted to use it on more oil. Well after about 25 games ofnot cleaning it, it began to look like it was in a polished state, because of the lane oil. Now, I know that the SOAKER cover sucks most of the oil up, but after a few games, the ball still looks "polsihed" a little bit. And plus, the ball didn't seem to react strong enough on the kind of oil that I was on because it wasn't dull enough, so I cleaned it and re-sanded it back to 600, and bam... the hook is back!





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