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Leftyhi-trak

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Dear "Guys"
« on: January 13, 2006, 07:42:25 AM »
Phil and Billy,

Have seen a few CM's lately and are very impressed with the innovation as the balls both shows power with stability. I know christmas is over but can I ask possibly to get a "PCM"= pearl Centrifugal Mass or even pearl/solid mix for some lighter to medium oil. I know your other lines and they do very well but would like to see how this core might do in a weaker or pearl cover. I know you  have probably done some R&D runs but is there any chance of some near future production. If not and you have any seed rejects I am more than willing to take them off your hands. LOL

Thanks,
Lefty in light oil

Edited on 1/16/2006 1:32 PM

Edited on 1/16/2006 1:32 PM

 

Goof1073

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Re: Dear "Guys"
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2006, 08:18:23 AM »
First off, it's Centrifugal Mass not Critical Mass...that was an old Track ball.

Have you seen a CM polished up yet?  I've thrown my test ball with a few various surface preps and it can handle heavy to medium oil depending on the cover prep.  I actually use the ball for medium conditions now.

Don't get me wrong a pearl version of this ball would be nice...but until it happens, just polish one up.
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AllAirForceTwice

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Re: Dear "Guys"
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2006, 01:32:08 PM »
Ditto Goof! Also, the CM is a pearl/solid mix already Lefty and polished well for me at Team USA... In fact, a little too well... My ball was only 2 weeks young, wasn't "broken in" or had enough time with surface adjustments to really get confidence... I can say this... the ball goes considerably longer taking it up to 2000 with wet abralon over the box finish. I saw at least 4 more feet and with Track's Magic Shine, I expect to see upwards of 7 feet. I could not use it in my league THS before my trip to Reno (too grabby) so I shined it last night. Let me test it in league tonight for ya.


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Leftyhi-trak

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Re: Dear "Guys"
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 12:53:53 PM »
Sorry Goof, i did know that got watching some old tour tapes and where they were throwing the Critical so i had it on the brain. I have heard mediums to pretty heavy for this ball. I guess what sticks in my brain was "new guy"'s statements on being able to keep the ball in play longer than most standard equipment. Just hoping to see something matching medium to lighter oil that you didn't have to play down its capabilities to match the pattern. The core might be too much for the weaker resin but just wondering. (Thats why i was hinting at any "bad seed" balls) Capt appreciate any input.

newguy

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Re: Dear "Guys"
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 02:50:26 PM »
I guess most of us have been conditioned over the years to assume that a great core should work in all coverstocks. This been the norm for most companies. They have a ball that is a success so they flood the market with various versions. I specifically design cores that are more versatile so as to allow us to develop an arsenal based around a particular core. My personal favorite is the Vendetta core. We have seen much success with the Energy core but it really needed some density tweaking to get the three balls to comprise an arsenal. The Vendetta on the other hand is a very unique piece of equipment. The core, which I developed many many years ago has stood the test of time and performs equally well with every cover we had put around it. It is a very unique case. Now to the point. One can not assume that a pearl version of the C.M. would automatically be a success. Cover and core combo is the guiding light. I have noticed that many other Assym. core companies use a significant amount of surface on their Assym core balls. Why is that? My assumption is that they need help getting the core started, thus their cores are not that versatile and as such would not work well in a pearl cover. We are in the process of reviewing several options for the C.M. and may find that pearl does work or may find that it does not give us a significantly enough different motion to warrant a launch. Only time will tell. Until than play with the surface until you get the reaction that allow you to stay in play the longest.

AllAirForceTwice

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Re: Dear "Guys"
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 11:02:14 PM »
Lefty... I had the whole rt side tonight 908 for 4 games... Had some coaching from Mike Jasnau in Reno, NV last week and was solely thinking about that... however, now that I got that extra 4-6 feet of length... WOW... What an easy to rev ball. The core really does transition as well as advertised... The roll at the backend was truly the best I have seen my stuff do in years. I tend to roll assymetric cores better IMHO so I am pumped that Mr C. has not quite shut the door on building another ball around this core or a small variation of it anyway...

I also do see his point that I could drill 3 of these from weak to medium to strong with 4000, 2000 and 1000 abralons and have a pretty good look on 95% of the shots I see in leagues, ABT or other local tourneys... I did not use a Sport Pattern drill on this (kicking my own butt for not doing this...) but now wish I had.


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