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scotts33

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Thing surface
« on: January 12, 2004, 02:05:45 AM »
Hey DT'ers--I've been using my Thing at 1000 grit surface grey pad.  First 50 or so games real nice reaction.  Use a spinner and ball cleaned after every set.  Have not used Elixr on it.  Lately ball seems to pick up shine after using about 5 frames.  It didn't do that earlier.  Take it down to 1000 again after cleaning and same thing.  Ball lopes to much and leaves 10's.  Any suggestion on how to keep it at 1000 thru a set?  

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2004, 05:29:01 PM »
How many times have you sanded/resurfaced it?
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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2004, 06:06:26 PM »
I haven't resurfaced it as of yet.  Ball has slight tracking not real bad.  
Estimate about 75 games on ball.

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2004, 06:40:05 AM »
I took the factory shine off of mine but putting it on the Haus machine for about a minute.  Since then all I've done is clean it with an orange degreaser (something from Zep I got at Home Depot) after each set.  I'm sure I have over 100 games on it by now.  Still going strong (hook and hit) and no obvious track.  It will look a little more shiny after a set, but the performance doesn't change.  I don't know what to tell you.
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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2004, 08:34:09 AM »
Scott,

what did you clean it with???
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scotts33

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2004, 03:17:19 PM »
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what did you clean it with???


charlest--Normally clean with Simple Green on my Vertex spinner after every set.  Then, use Neo-Tac Renew It about once a week for deep cleaning.  I had a light track maybe a few track marks that you could visually see.  The ball seemed like it would pick up a shine after about 5 frames and then lope more mid lane and not hit as hard leaving tens.  Didn't read the mid lane as well.  I am using this on a THS wood lanes and synthetic...trajectory crossing arrows at 16 out to 8 and back in.  Too wet/dry to play any farther out than that.  I like the 1000 sheen type finish to control back end and not get over reaction on fresh lanes.  Thing is 1st ball out of the bag I usally put it away and go to Thing Returns after the heads go a little and some carry down is created....to much carry down a light load pearl particle.

What I did last night was resurface up to 800 wet sand just to see if I will get that same look I have been getting.  Took the tracking out. Possibly the grey scotch-brite pad is too smooth or the ball needed a resurface.  Of course now that it's winter here in WI possibly the lane conditioner is being carried farther down the lane and causing this problem too.  

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Scott
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Phillip Marlowe

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2004, 04:13:49 PM »
I have found that after about 100 games, you need to resurface the Thing and get it back to box to get the best reaction out of it.  In my experience, 800 to 1000 wetsand has the ball burning up too early.
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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2004, 04:24:55 PM »
I like the orange degreaser I've been using.  No noticeable film or residue, but I have heard about using other products after certain cleaners.

I still have some Renew-It sitting around.  I know it says it doesn't change the surface, but I thought dull balls looked more shiny after an application.  That may be causing part of your problems.
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scotts33

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2004, 04:30:19 PM »
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I have found that after about 100 games, you need to resurface the Thing and get it back to box to get the best reaction out of it. In my experience, 800 to 1000 wetsand has the ball burning up too early.


I thought of that also Phillip that it maybe burning up but I like the controlled backend it gives a lil duller. Maybe I'll try Storm 1 step on it.

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2004, 04:35:05 PM »
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I still have some Renew-It sitting around. I know it says it doesn't change the surface, but I thought dull balls looked more shiny after an application. That may be causing part of your problems.
 


Yes, I agree Strider Renew It does seem to shine 'em up a bit.  Then, I'd take a grey pad and buff 'the Thing down a lil.  

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2004, 05:23:20 PM »
Scott,

Don't know if Simple Green is affecting the ball, but I know ReNew-it is! It is a cleaner AND polisher. The bottle does not say it, but the documentation I got with my supply says,
"will take a 400 matte fimish ball to anywhere between 500 to 2000 grit."

I use my Renew-it to polish balls, never to clean them. It has more polish than cleaner in it.

I must believe this is why your ball is acting the way it is. I suggest you sand it or use a nylon pad to take the ball to 600 grit dull, in order to, hopefully, remove all the Renew-it compound. Then sand/nylon pad it to 1000 grit to get it back to where it was.

Thereafter, do not do anything to it unless it is too horrible to touch. Then use ONLY Simple Green or or other degreaser LIGHTLY. Even Phil, the owner of DT and designer of the Thing, does not even clean his personal ball.


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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2004, 05:24:20 PM »
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I have found that after about 100 games, you need to resurface the Thing and get it back to box to get the best reaction out of it.  In my experience, 800 to 1000 wetsand has the ball burning up too early.
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Mr. Marlowe, remember not everyone revs the ball the way you do!
AND maybe this guy is using it where he should be using the Element.

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Phillip Marlowe

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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2004, 07:48:17 PM »
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I have found that after about 100 games, you need to resurface the Thing and get it back to box to get the best reaction out of it.  In my experience, 800 to 1000 wetsand has the ball burning up too early.
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Mr. Marlowe, remember not everyone revs the ball the way you do!
AND maybe this guy is using it where he should be using the Element.

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Now, now, you know that I is just a slow, low rev stroker!

If one prefers 800 to 1000 wetsand and the type of reaction that surface preparation provides, the Element is probably a better ball.
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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2004, 10:33:35 AM »
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Charlest is right about the ReNew-It...   I think it was Jeffrevs that called Neo-Tac demanding to know the differences in all their products.   They told him that Renew-it does work as a cleaner and polish.


Yes it was me...........and I simply asked.............because their product labels really aren't very specific.

However, both Hook it and Renew it are cleaners...but Renew it also is a light polish.....
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Re: Thing surface
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2004, 11:44:46 AM »
it makes me look like a raging idiot---, ........oh,..........wait...
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