I am picking up my second T-Hold tomorrow got it from joe at allstar as usaul he comes through with the best deal for it. I went with pin over ring and cap below my thumb to delay the backend on it slightly and use it on fresh medium/heavy shots. I have a pin under finger and mb strong T-Hold for me it is the strongest ball i have ever thrown, more than the Infinite One and Action Max. I like the new dyno balls better from the columbia plant, they are stronger and more consistent in reaction for me, the new covers they are using are very tuneable and do what they are advertised too do.