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charlest

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Threshold coverstock question
« on: November 13, 2006, 05:46:24 AM »
(If I posted this previously, I apologize. Don't recall the answer, in any case)

Is the Threshold's "NexGen Reactive w/MicroParticles" considered to be a Soaker coverstock?

I sure hope so. Just threw a few games on medium oil with either a slightly longer than average pattern (or slightly heavier oil in the heads), after sanding the stock one to 2000 grit, with an Abralon pad. It hardly ever made the turn, playing a slight swing (16/17 at arrows, out to 8/9 at breakpoint), that (theoreticallY) milder balls had no trouble making. Threw a sheen finish solid particle and polished solid resin, both of which hooked more and more consistently.

So I'm praying this ball needs some "break-in" like all Soakers ....

(I sanded it from its base 1000 grit, because when I tried it at another house, also with medium oil with a heavier dose in the heads on Anvillanes synthetics, it made an uncontrollable left turn.)
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 01:47:48 PM »
Sorry but no, it says on their website

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 02:28:53 PM »
Charlest, I am pretty sure its not a version of soaker. I think I remember someone asking when it first came out.

I also found the Threshold to be VERY strong OOB and had to have plenty oil to use it. I figured I would play with the cover some and see what happens.

 I first took it to 1500 sheen with Tracks Clean N Smooth. It gave it more length and tamed down the backend a bit. It was ok, but I was curious to see what other surfaces would do. I took it to 2000 abralon and it made it a semi-mild medium oiler. 4000 abralon just pretty much killed it. I took it back to 800(grey pad) and added a coat of Brunswick Factory Finish and it made it more skid flippy. I liked the reaction because it looked good, however I could not control the break. I tend to need more dull balls because of side roll so it will read earlier and smooth out the break a little. I ended up going back to OOB with it and just using it on what it was intended for. It seems to give the best reaction OOB for me. 800 dull.


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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 02:36:14 PM »
I wonder what 220 with Rough Buff like Activator+ on an Absolute would look like with a Threshold....hmmm
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 02:38:03 PM »
Back to the topic, from what I've been told, by reliable sources, the coverstock on the Threshold is based from C300's M80 base.  If this is incorrect, I'll be happy to admit my mistake.  In any event, the ball flat out rocks.  I don't care if Betty-freakin'-Crocker makes the damned thing.
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 02:46:23 PM »
This has indeed been answered before.  The T-hold is not a Soaker ball.  There's a little break-in like most balls, but having heard how strong this ball is, I think it's burning up.  Most of the posts about it say nothing but how strong it is and how much oil it requires.

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 03:07:25 PM »
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I think it's burning up. Most of the posts about it say nothing but how strong it is and how much oil it requires.



It is very strong OOB, but at 2000 grit on medium oil I don't think it would burn up. Unless the heads are lighter or burned up. It needs head oil for sure.
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 04:50:10 PM »
Hi guys I just found this one the Track forum you might want to
read what new guy says in his response. Not sure what to make of it.
Hope this helps.
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=142414&ForumID=14&CategoryID=2
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 05:23:02 PM »
quote:
Hi guys I just found this one the Track forum you might want to
read what new guy says in his response. Not sure what to make of it.
Hope this helps.


Not particle but is Soaker.  Kinda goes against what's been said in the past.  DT's own website says particle pearl.

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charlest

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2006, 05:31:16 PM »
quote:
quote:
Hi guys I just found this one the Track forum you might want to
read what new guy says in his response. Not sure what to make of it.
Hope this helps.


Not particle but is Soaker.  Kinda goes against what's been said in the past.  DT's own website says particle pearl.

SH


You found something of interest, Shelley. Phil said:
"Remember the Threshold is not a particle ball but uses the soaker cover."

Phil (or other guy),

If you read this, can we get a clarification? The D/T website says it's a particle pearl, with no mention of it being a Soaker.

Are your comments in that Track thread correct or is the D/T website correct?

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102101

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2006, 05:35:07 PM »
Shelley if the ZR40 is a pearl reactive soaker couldn't
the Threshold be a pearl particle soaker?
Maybe the "NexGen Reactive w/MicroParticles" is a new version of Soaker?
Just speculating and hoping here.
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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2006, 07:41:00 PM »
Phil must be off his meds.  The Threshold... at least as described in the ball ad in front of me...  is not Soaker and has particles.

We can wait for him to chime in and correct himself or the ball ad.


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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2006, 09:50:21 PM »
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(I sanded it from its base 1000 grit, because when I tried it at another house, also with medium oil with a heavier dose in the heads on Anvillanes synthetics, it made an uncontrollable left turn.)


I think you answered your own problems right there without knowing.  The OOB surface got you a strong reaction. Sanding it, as I'm sure you know, offers more chance to bleed energy and is causing it to burn up on lighter shots. It has seemed to be to be nothing short of an oil HOG from the ones I've seen.

O and I don't know or care what the cover is, it works

shelley

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2006, 10:33:59 PM »
quote:
Shelley if the ZR40 is a pearl reactive soaker couldn't
the Threshold be a pearl particle soaker?
Maybe the "NexGen Reactive w/MicroParticles" is a new version of Soaker?
Just speculating and hoping here.


If you're asking whether they could make a particle pearl Soaker ball, then sure.  I don't see why not.  The Pure Energy was a particle ball, the only particle Soaker that comes to mind.  There have been several pearlized and solid/pearl blends Soakers (Thing, AU79, CM, High Energy).

But I remember seeing one of the guys say that it was not a Soaker ball but that the next high-end ball would be (Ne10).

I agree that Phil's off his rocker.  He forgot to take the Track hat off and put the DT hat back on.  

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Re: Threshold coverstock question
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 06:21:58 AM »
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(I sanded it from its base 1000 grit, because when I tried it at another house, also with medium oil with a heavier dose in the heads on Anvillanes synthetics, it made an uncontrollable left turn.)


I think you answered your own problems right there without knowing.  The OOB surface got you a strong reaction. Sanding it, as I'm sure you know, offers more chance to bleed energy and is causing it to burn up on lighter shots. It has seemed to be to be nothing short of an oil HOG from the ones I've seen.



SOrry, crankncrash, but yo umissed something. I sanded it finer. I took the stock finish (I had said it was 1000 grit, but now I think it is 800 grit) and sanded it to 2000 grit. That can't make it grabbier; it adds more length. It should bleed less energy.


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