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Title: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: onlybowling on February 07, 2007, 04:41:47 AM
It is my hope - 1. That Phil will continue to have personal ownership of his designs and cover chemistry.  And 2.  Phil will find a way to continuse to produce his work for all of us.

The soaker formula is singular in the bowling world and I for one do not want to see it go away.  


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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: KDawg77 on February 07, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
Strike my last statement. Ebonite will likely assume Dynothane's production since they bought it under the Columbia 300 umbrella.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: tekneek on February 07, 2007, 01:21:22 PM
that is true to a certain extent, Phil owns the Soaker, his alone. E did not get it, like they did not get "Roozs". Anything is possible, smirk, giggle.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: KDawg77 on February 07, 2007, 01:22:51 PM
Well, duh...

Ebonite can still pure Soaker and make Dynothane balls without using/stealing it for themselves.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: EboKnight on February 07, 2007, 01:24:25 PM
from what I heard... Dyno will be shut down... and probably Circle too.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: Aud300 on February 07, 2007, 01:28:32 PM
his email is being sent to all the Track Staffers and Pro Shops that I have had the pleasure of dealing with over the past several months.

 

In case you have not yet heard, I wanted to be the first to tell you that Ebonite has purchased Columbia Industries which includes the Track Brand.  I can tell you that the latest products, including the Track Phoenix and Columbia Big Shot have been developed with extensive research and development and that I have full confidence in telling you that these products will be great performing balls.  We designed the covers and cores to provide reliable and predictable motion for both bowlers and pro shops.

 

I appreciate your support over the past several months.  I will be apart of the Columbia Brand for the next 60 days through the transition period.  Even though I will not have all the answers, if you would like to contact me, please feel free to do so.

 

Again, I appreciate all your support and all the friendships that I have developed.  Through thick and thin we know who our friends are and if you need anything at all – please feel free to let me know.  Otherwise, this is a small world and I am sure we will meet again.

 

Again, I truly thank you.

 

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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: SKIDSNAP on February 07, 2007, 01:44:40 PM
I think that you will see Dynothane going away.

IF you read into the press release you will se that they mention the brand equity of Track.  I do not think they will try to manage 3 smaller brands.

Three is too many.

The market is overpopulated and there needs to bee some contraction.  I fear that Dynothane will be lost in this acquisition.  It is a common practice to acquire a company to shut them down.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on February 07, 2007, 01:46:07 PM
Wasnt Dynothane a brother/sister with Rotogrip under Storm at one time? If so, why not pull the company out and go back under Storm again?
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: SKIDSNAP on February 07, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
Dynothane is now owned by Ebonite.  IT is theirs to do what they will with the brand.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: MAJM on February 07, 2007, 02:14:01 PM
I think this line is VERY important when looking at the press release.


 
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“We still have many details to work out but are confident that we will successfully integrate the Columbia Industries products into our company. We did this with the acquisition of the Hammer brand in 2002 and look forward to doing so again,” added Scheid.

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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: MAJM on February 07, 2007, 02:20:50 PM
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Dynothane is now owned by Ebonite.  IT is theirs to do what they will with the brand.


There is ONLY an agreement right now. It is not set in stone that it will happen. I'm sure they are only in the "intent" phase of the purchase, alot has to happen before a sale becomes official. Whether its just dotting the i or crossing the t, or if in fact there is the standard procedures that need to be done before the company is bought remains to be seen. Also, Dynothane was shipped under the Columbia brand if I'm not mistaken. All this could be is Ebonite will ship Dynothane under the Ebonite umbrella, BUT will not OWN Dynothane as with the Columbia agreement. I could be wrong though. Time will tell.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on February 07, 2007, 05:48:57 PM
as always...time will lend to the truth!
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: the prince on February 07, 2007, 05:54:36 PM
Columbia never owned Dynothane or Dynaroos, so they could not be part of the deal.  Any purchase by Ebonite would have to be seperate.  Until we hear it directly from Phil we should all assume that Dynothane will now be manufactured and marketed by Ebonite and Phil will still design the cores and coverstock, just like when manufacturing shifted from Storm to Columbia.

But who knows, maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.  But speculation on our part is just that, speculation.  I'm sure everyone's questions will be answered in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: jimensminger on February 08, 2007, 09:19:49 AM
Don't worry Ying, I hear they have great fishin' and huntin' in Kentucky. What's that..? You're not big on fishin' and huntin'......oops.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: MAJM on February 08, 2007, 09:23:32 AM
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I wish that I had better answers for you guys. This announcement came as I was travelling to Las Vegas for the High Roller. As I understand it, Ebonite now has all rights to Dynothane Balls and Accessories. They did not purchase the rights to our shoes. I really dont have anything "official" as to whats going to happen other than Dynorooz will continue normal operations. We should know more by early next week.
I would like to personally thank each of you for all of your insight. It has been a very positive experience for me.
I have a favorite saying, "It's not what circumstances do to you, it's what you do with them".


Not sure if you can answer this but did Columbia actually buy Dynothane balls and accessories. If they didn't then Ebonite actually purchased Dynothane separate from Columbia?

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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: xxZonexx on February 08, 2007, 10:05:18 AM
wow, I hope dynothane stays, only equipment i use.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: Dynoboy on February 08, 2007, 10:25:41 AM
I've been using Dynothane since I bought my first Vendetta, the original. This deal made by Ebonite and Columbia will probably mean the end for Dynothane as a trademark from Ebonite to keep it in the market. Dynothane has not entered the market enough to be considered a force in sales. What I see here is that some covers (soaker) and cores will be push by Ebonite as new alternatives to bowlers as a separate line of equipment. Save this opinion, and give about 6-8 months to happen.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: newguy on February 08, 2007, 10:26:47 AM
You guy are really prying into some private business dealings. Much of which can not and should not be discussed in a chat room. Please be so kind as to refrain from speculations and the spinning of yarns (I like that one, the spinning of yarns) When we are able to and willing to discuss this we will. We've always supported the site and in most cases, except for a few individuals, you all have been very helpful with the brand and genuinely concerned, I assure you we will keep all of you up to speed with info we feel should be divulge.  Thanks Phil
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: bamaster on February 08, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
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You guy are really prying into some private business dealings. Much of which can not and should not be discussed in a chat room. Please be so kind as to refrain from speculations and the spinning of yarns (I like that one, the spinning of yarns) When we are able to and willing to discuss this we will. We've always supported the site and in most cases, except for a few individuals, you all have been very helpful with the brand and genuinely concerned, I assure you we will keep all of you up to speed with info we feel should be divulge.  Thanks Phil


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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: jimensminger on February 08, 2007, 10:47:11 AM
Bam,...you too are funny.
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: DynoLess Daddy on February 08, 2007, 03:33:48 PM
come over to El Paso, so we can feed you...your looking a little thin there man!

you ready for Wica's cooking?


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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 09, 2007, 06:20:46 PM
newguy, i'm sorry this happened to you. i never threw any of your equipment but your shoes are the best ! good luck in the future !
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: jls on February 10, 2007, 08:11:59 AM
just my 2 cents about newguy { phil }.

to me it would be like if peyton became a free agent.  kinda thinking a few teams would want him.  now in the bowling ball world, i think the same thing will apply to newguy!!!

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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: TheDude on February 10, 2007, 11:47:08 PM
Phil was supposed to be up here this weekend and that trip has been cancelled, and from what i was told today his other trip later this year in april to montreal has also been cancelled.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: newguy on February 11, 2007, 09:48:50 AM
Bad info again...I bowl a team tournament with my friends from Buffa bowling supply. I'm still on the team and still making the trip.
Not only are you guys speculating about things you have no clue about regarding company matters but now it involves my personal involvements. Please stop!!!
Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: pjr300 on February 11, 2007, 08:44:33 PM

I'd be touchy too if I had to read a bunch of incorrect theories about me onan Internet forum!


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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: RealBowler on February 11, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
I think we should just be happy that somebody like Phil is posting on a forum.

You all should just stop dragging the guy's personal life around.
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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: pjr300 on February 11, 2007, 09:03:54 PM

Agreed Haywood. Thanks Phil for sharing whatever you can.


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Title: Re: Will Dynothane continue?
Post by: TheDude on February 12, 2007, 01:23:38 AM
I'm not dragging anyone through the mudd, i went into buffa on saturday and asked if phil was in town for claremont, and was told he hadn't arrived.

With the dealing going on in texas it's understandable you'd be busy. Eeesh.
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