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Big Time
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Length Rating: 10.85 (scale of 1-30, early to late)  
Overall Hook Rating: 28.75  (scale of 1-30, least to most)  
Breakpoint Angle: 9.65 (scale of 1-10, smooth to sharp)  
Color: Black/Silver  
Style: 029744-871  
Reactions: Clean through the front with strong continuous backend reaction.  
Target Line: Track Area and Inside Angles  
Lane Conditions: Medium to Heavy Oil  
Coverstock: BOMBER Low Load Particle Sanded w/100 Grit Abralon  
Core: Apex Adrenaline  
 

                       
Weights:  16  15  14          
RG:  2.51 2.51 2.51        
Differential:  0.05 0.054 0.054    

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georgiabowler

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2005, 11:22:19 AM »
thinking about a big time sanded i have alot of revs and speed does this ball respond as good as i have read and is it worth it love to get the feed back
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2005, 09:36:30 AM »
15 lbs 2oz
3oz TW
3-4 pin
Pin 5" from pap cg kicked right about 1/2" this put the pin above the ring finger for me. No weight hole required.

Before I even threw this ball I took the finish to 4000 grit abralon. I wanted this ball to get down the lane and make a hard turn.

38' THS wood lanes with quardian heads. 232-265-211 It took just a few threws before I got lined up. Definately a hook set motion coming straight up the back. When I changed hand postion and came around the side more the ball had more continuation. Was able to play different lines with no problems. This ball was great on this shot, with excellent carry. Last game the beer started to come into play.

41' THS synthetics (AMF) 265-212-210-207-156-206 With fresh backends this ball responded well . I struggled a little with carrydown, was able to adjust but not as fast I wanted. When the lanes started to break down I was able to move inside. Overall really didn't buy this ball for this house you need something to roll up a little earlier. My Xxcel is which I perfer in this house.

Overall, my intentions with this ball was to have something under my Xxcel. My wish came true. For this price great ball. Way to go Ebonite keep them coming.
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Hussman

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2005, 02:44:56 PM »
Just wanted to give an update...almost 3 months since I bought this ball and over 175 games later and it is as good if not better than the day I bought it.  This ball does not have the biggest hook or the hardest hit, it just gets the job done...it is a consistently high scorer for me.  My main concern when I bought this ball was the life of the coverstock, but I'd say Ebonite hit a homerun with this one...shot 695 with it just last week.
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2005, 03:10:23 PM »
Got this ball in May and it has been the best ball i have had. Use it on med oil from ten to ten. outside dry. Have not shot under 600 with it yet in league. High set 799 and 297 with 4 more 700's and many high 600 sets. Getting the pearl version drilled up. Great Ball Great price definite 10
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9cline

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2005, 02:33:28 PM »
Great ball for med-heavy oil.
Mine has the
pin below ring finger and x hole on pap
goes smooth down the lane and nice strong arc off the dry.
Rolled the ball on a long sport pattern it never turned over, I slowed it down to give it chance to react. Still didn't,but played straight to pocket and it did carry on through the hole. I don't think mine is the ball for this condition. Have used on broken down league shot,and moved inside it worked terrific. Seems to work better when it can cover boards.
Good ball I love mine too.
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2005, 12:42:59 AM »
i like this ball...great for a bowler who needs some help with hook...for me it can get a little jumpy in the front of the lane..so what i do is shine it up and go inside and slow it down in the oil...thats if your center puts oil on the lane in the middle..but this a great ball quality and price it can become sensitvie on the backends even dulled up where it skids too far..
 someone who has higher speed with little rotation..so slow your tempo down a
little to allow this monster to work because when i slow it down it gives me the whole lane...
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jchosea

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2005, 01:15:00 AM »
1st night out(I know it's early) maybe the best ball I've ever owned. Glides through the fronts and about a third through the mids and turns over and crushes everything in sight. Drilled pin above and between the fingers and the cg is kicked out about 1 1/2". No extra whole needed(Thank goodness). 244, 257, 259. Enuff said.
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Monster Stitch

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2005, 11:41:40 AM »
Specs:
15.30lbs
3 Inch Pin
3oz Top

Layout:
Right Handed
5 x 3
Pin Under Bridge
CG kicked out 2 inches
X-Hole 6 inches in a 45 degree angle from center of span through cg and down

Report:
I bowled with this ball on a couple of different lane surfaces. This ball skid through the front, revs in the midlane, and has a continuous arc in the backend. On a THS, this ball can strike at pretty much any angle. You can swing it out from the wet to dry and the ball rolls back to the pocket. I can go stright up the oil line and it will hit the packet too. The Big Time keeps the pins low and hits like a truck. I was very impress. When the lanes start to break down in the front and mids, it's time to put this ball away. It burns up early like other balls and checks up. Overall with the adrenaline core this ball really spins up. I always liked how the APEX ball rolled. With the low load particle and the rest reactive this ball can really give a one two punch. Also the Big Time is responsive to different hand positions.

Look at when Tommy Jones threw the ball on the PBA Tour last year. He was dominant.

Another great ball by Ebonite.
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2006, 10:27:30 AM »
16lb
2 1/2 inch pin
2 1/2 top

drilled pin  below and just outside of ring finger cg straight below with a weight hole.

I finally found enough head oil for this ball at our local singles tourny.
All I can say is it's about time I got a partical ball that is capable of getting good length and has enough left on the backend to turn the corner.I have alwas had trouble with particle balls running out of gs on the back not this one.I was able to play inside the oil line all day and never had any problems carrying in a house that is famous for bad carry.

If you are looking for an easy to control particle ball that wont run out of energy on the back this is it.The only ting is you will have to put it away when the heads start to fry.


In my opinion this is the best particle I have ever thrown as far as readability and storing energy for the backend.I would definately recomend this ball to anyone who is looking for a ball for heavier oil.


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This game is sooooo easy.SEE SPOT HIT SPOT why is it I still cant get it right after all this time?

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2006, 04:47:53 PM »
First I'd like to say thanks for the info on this ball and others. I have just found this site in the last couple of weeks. I've been throwing a  Voxtex V2 the last couple of years but I just couldn't get it to finish on heavy oil. I'm a guy older guy with med. ball speed,a stocher sytle. I needed a ball for heavy oil and I got the Big Time. All I can say is WOW! I haven't been able to throw a inside line in along time. Well now I can. I can belive how hard this ball hits. It's just  what I've read on this site It goes long and comes back hard. After two nights of bowling with ball I know this ball will now be my main ball. I also have to give credit to my Pro shop as he set it up right for me at a good price.
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Jeff Ussery

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2006, 10:48:22 AM »
Pin to PAP Distance: 5 7/8"
Preferred Spin Axis to PAP Distance: 3 1/2"
Balance Hole: 29/32" x 1 1/2" Deep – 1" Past PAP
Surface Preparation: Box Condition

What I Was Looking For in this Ball and Layout:

Here's a great example of what NOT to do with a brand new bowling ball. I drilled this ball with no real objective in mind. The aggressiveness of the coverstock and the high differential of the ball scared me into a weaker pin to PAP distance than I would normally use. I drilled this ball with only one thing on my mind; keep it from over-flaring too early.

What I Ended Up With in this Ball and Layout:

The result of drilling a ball without a desired ball reaction is that you really don't know what you will end up with. Unfortunately for me, not thinking about the ball layout before throwing some holes in it created an overlapping reaction in my bag. This Big Time ball clears the head area of the lane better than anything in my bag right now. The smooth coverstock and weak pin position combine for an unbelievably low amount of friction in the front part of the lane, and I've yet to find a lane that I can't get this ball through the front on. I drilled a balance hole beyond my PAP to try and open up the flare rings a little, but the effect of this was very minimal.

Here comes mistake number two with my brilliance. I placed the preferred spin axis of this ball 3 1/2" from my PAP. When combined with all of the front end skid I created through pin position and ball selection, this PSA location creates a very medium type of backend reaction. The ball sneaks through the front part of the lane and then needs an incredible amount of friction in the backend to get started. If the ball does get into a transition, it does make a very strong move towards the pocket. With the skid created by step 1, I can really create some steep entry angles with this PSA location.

The overall hook of my Big Time is significantly less than the One and Big One balls that were also reviewed on June 3rd. While the surface makes it slightly stronger than my Overtime, the ball does not have any real purpose for me. The real issue with this ball lies in the lane conditions we bowl on. I said that the ball clears the front of the lane extremely clean. This means that I really can't throw it on slicker heads because it just skates out in the backend. So I'm really looking for a condition that is slightly broken down in the front of the lane for this Big Time. I also need an incredible amount of friction in the backend to get the ball started. In tournament play, far more often than not, when we see broken down fronts, we see a lot of oil down lane. So again, it's near impossible for me to match up this ball properly.

In summary, don't drill bowling balls without a purpose in mind. I hope you can learn from my lesson and keep situations like this from happening to you.

Length from 1-10 (Early to Late)
7.5

Breakpoint Move from 1-10 (Smooth to Sharp)
6.0

Overall Hook from 1-10 (Low to High)
6.5

A picture of this ball and the layout can be seen on our website if you are interested.

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kusan_31

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Re: Big Time
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2006, 10:37:47 PM »
Ball Specs: 15.04lbs, top 3.75oz, pin 3-4"
Pin above ring finger (4" to PAP)
CG kicked out about an inch from 12:00, x-hole slightly below PAP
Surface Dulled with Burgundy Scotch Pad.

I originally got this ball drilled to read the midlane push through carrydown.

This layout produced a controllable change of direction, yet high revving at the end of the lane. I found this ball to work better on my current house shots than anything ive ever owned. The one thing i can't get out of my mind is how this ball carries the corners 95+ % of my pocket hits.

The only problem i had with this ball is when the track area is completely broken down. It rolls a tad too early when i try to bounce it off the dry. Its playable on a medium-light shot, but takes a little too much effort to swing it out enough.

My friend (a pure Lane 1 user) commented the reaction I got from this ball. I think that shows how greatly under-rated it is. Im planning to get one more Big Time and drill it without such a big x-hole.

Through all the companies that ive tried, Ebonite balls seem to compliment my game the best. Next up is a Raw Hammer Doom which im currently waiting for.
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2007, 05:21:32 PM »
Well, this is kind of a tall of two balls here.  For the first 8 months, the ball was amazing.  Massive smooth hook for a ball in its price range.  You won't find a better ball at its price level, guaranteed!  However, after 8 months and lots of games, the coverstock died.  Baking and cleaning with powerhouse energizer just couldn't help it.  Well, at least  I now have a ball that works perfect for the Norm Duke down and in shot if you change hand positions and alter the surface slightly.  I liked this ball a lot, but now it sees minimal usage time.  If you own a Big Time and think it's a great ball, try a Raw Hammer Doom instead.  That is a great ball with a similar but better reaction and it won't die on you.
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Re: Big Time
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2007, 08:01:39 PM »
I am a cranker I don't know much about the specs of the ball, but i have found this ball to be a great ball on any condition except dry.  I cannot do anything when the lanes are too dry.  I bowled my first 300 within 3 weeks of purchase.  On medium oil it is best.  I can get it to do whatever i want it to.  I have had this ball for 2 years now and just got it plugged and redrilled.  Since i got it redrilled i have shot 633 and 749 in my youth league. I love this ball and plan on using it for a while longer.
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