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TPC Warrior
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »

Coverstock: Pearlized Big WheelTM Reactive Resin

Box Finish: 800 grit sanded, then factory polished

Color: Neon Blue/Neon Green

Core: Propeller Core, Asymmetric Design

PSA Location: 6-3/4" from pin

Mass Bias Strength: .004

Flare Potential: 6"+

Length: 16.80 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-30, early to late)

Overall Hook: 20.30 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-30, least to most)

Breakpoint Angle: 9.30 (Ebonite’s scale of 1-10, most smooth to most angular)

Best Lane Condition: Light to medium oil

 

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2002, 12:13:28 PM »
This is my second review of this ball. Check my previous review for the layout. After I have thrown this ball for several games, It seemed to always be to inconsistent, hooking high one shot then laying off the next. I then decided to get a weight hole put in to take some finger weight out and also some side weight out to get the ball into a more predictable roll. Well, I hit the jackpot when I did this. Immediately after I got the extra hole put in, I rolled 238-245-236. What a difference. I have so much more area now, I push it out it rolls smoothly into the pocket (does not overreact like before). I pull it a little, it holds its line and smashes the pocket (before would either hook through the head pin or slide the whole way down). If you are having problems with this ball, I certainly would reccommend a weight hole.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2003, 12:06:43 AM »
Good ball, not great. But good. Hits very hard. Carries well. One thing this ball is not is a ball to use on oil or carrydown. If this ball senses oil at all, forget about it------dead straight. It does was it was intended to do, works very well on medium to medium light conditions. Fits into Ebonite's lineup perfectly, when the Adrenaline and Aggression are too much ball, go to the Warrior and you are set.

I have considered playing with the cover a bit, just to see how it will work, not have not done so.

I give the Warrior an 8 out of 10, because it does what it was intended to do, but so far is not very versitile.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2003, 08:30:45 PM »
When I got this ball I couldn't believe how easy it was to get down the lane. The ball is very clean in the front to mid lane and than has good backend when it makes it turn to the pocket. This ball is drilled with a 5 1/2 inch pin from my axis. Pin is above fingers on center line. With this drilling I can stay behind the ball and if I need to I can open the lane up with my big hook. The ball was very easy to read. I think the TPC line of balls will do your game good.


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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2003, 06:31:33 AM »
My specs I am Right handed power stroker about 320 rpm, about 17 mph, pap 5 3/4" over, 1/2" up.

Ball's specs, 15lb. 3 oz. top weight 3" pin drilled 4x4 weight hole on Pap.

This ball is one of those balls that seems to have a nose for the pocket. If you are bowling on a medium to light oil pattern and don't have one of these you are at a dissadvantage. I really have to make a bad shot to miss the pocket with this ball. It hits very hard, as long as there is not too much oil for it.

The house I bowl in is usually flooded, so I don't get to bowl with it very often, however I bowled in a clinic at a different house, last week and bowled over 50 games with it on different shots, all medium to short sport patterns and this ball never left my hands even when the lanes started to get very dry.

This will be the first ball out of the bag at Knoxville, unless they turn up the oil.

Overall you can get away with using stronger drill patterns than you normally do. A friend of mine who really revs the ball up, and doesn't have as much ball speed as I do, drilled one up and wished he had used a stronger drilling. He drilled his 2x5.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2003, 07:43:38 PM »
I drilled this ball with the pin under ring finger and the cg swung out.This has been a mainstay in my bag since its intro.Works well on carry down.Can be sanded for more oil.I think this is a good all around ball.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2003, 07:27:20 PM »
TPC Warrior by Ebonite is a good high performance pearl resin piece intended for bowling on tougher conditions.  My experience with the Propeller core is that it seems to allow the ball to glide through the midlane area easier with the same layout when compared to other high performance balls.  The advantage of this is that one can use a stronger layout and avoid some of the early hook problems in the midlane area.  This is especially true on tougher lane conditions such as Sport Bowling where the "pile of oil in the middle" isn't present to help correct a slight mistake.  The TPC Warrior is the pearlized version of this core and the TPC Shooter is the solid ball in this line.

  I drilled 2 TPC Warrior's. One was drilled with a 5 1/2 by 3 3/8 layout with a 70 degree PSA.  The second was drilled with a 4 by 2 1/2 layout with a 70 degree PSA. Both balls had balance holes in my PAP and were left in the box condition.

  The Warrior with the 5 1/2 inch layout was nice from inside angles and allowed me to play the lanes with a softer speed than other stronger pieces.  The Warrior with the 4 inch layout worked more effectively from the track area and to the outside.  Both balls were breaking farther down the lane but with a predictable kind of roll than I expected in comparison to Matrix's.  One warning the Pearl Big Wheel coverstock does not like carry down in the box condition.  I was bowling on Pro-Anvil Synthetic surface with a medium distance condition in a late shift league.  Altering the surface did make the breakpoint a bit earlier on the lane, however this ball is intended to work well on high friction patterns, not carrydown.

  The TPC Warrior is definitely a tournament player's ball and anyone who is participating regularly in tournaments should check out this ball and the TPC line in general.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2003, 11:57:26 AM »
The Warrior hooks.

Where it hooks depends on your drilling.  I have mine stacked with the pin in the bridge.  I find it plays the best with Ebonite Matte Finish Polish, which will make it read the midlane a little more consistant.  This ball might fare well when you are having a hard time getting it to turn the corner on carried down sport patterns.

Benefit -- using it for the slow loop

Drawback -- may not be able to use it to play the tube on most house conditions.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2003, 10:01:24 PM »
Hey All;
 The TPC series features a new propeller core. This core is the dominate control of this series. The Warrior has the pearl Big Wheel Shell. The shell gives you all the length and snap one could ever ask for. The core can be set to turn the corner, or to be as smooth as you would like.
 I drilled mine with the pin at 5-1/2" from my axis, the PSA 1" right of my thumb or strong. As you put the PSA closer to your axis point, you arrive with more length and more shallow break.
 This layout that I used goes straight as a string, and then looks like someone kicked it sideways. I keep this ball in my bag for getting inside 4th arrow, or rainbow the whole lane on a house wall.
 This core has the flexibility that Ebonite shells have. Dial in as much hook as you can handle!  

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2003, 10:30:53 AM »
This version of the TPC series features the Big Daddy Wheel shell. Its a shell that wants to start a little earlier than the Warrior shell(Big Wheel)
 I drilled mine with the pin under my ring finger and putting the PSA at a 45% angle from the pin. As you put the PSA closer to your axis point, you will achieve more length and stability.
 I can use this ball and layout on a lot of different lane conditions. This ball reads the midlane better than any ball I've ever had. This ones a keeper!
 The core in the TPC series requires some knowledge of what you want your ball to do BEFORE you drill holes in it. Weight holes can help tone the reaction down. Layouts without weight holes that hit the core will give you an Asymmetrical reaction. I have found that drilling a small hole deep and hitting the core will stabilize the core, giving it a more symmetric reaction. Always ask a trained and experienced ball driller about the reaction you are looking for.

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2003, 12:34:31 PM »
This ball hooks. I have mine drilled with a 4" pin and the PSA at 90* When this ball starts to hook, it goes and does not stop. No matter how deep I have played it does not hook out, which is good for me. Does not play really well on house shots for someone with a little bit if hand, but would be good to those who do not get much turn or for the higher speed players.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2003, 01:08:38 PM »
The propeller core provides something for us older players that I don't see much of.

SCOUTS

The Warrior gets down the lane and HITS.  It slaps out tens that I never thought would carry.

I have 2 Warriors.  One with the pin under the ring finger and one with the pin over the ring finger. Under the ring produces a smoother finish on the ball and above the ring provides a much more angular entry to the pocket.

Both of these balls will be beneficial to someone that is rotationally challenged.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2003, 09:23:14 PM »
Got this Puppy drilled up 3 3/8's, with a say 2.5 inch pin.  THis ball is awesome.  It has an amazing mid lane control, and snaps right on the back end, wth a nice angle.  Ive used this on decent oil, heavy and dry reacts good on all, except on HEavy got to move far Left(im lefty.).  Its a good strong ball.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2003, 07:09:39 PM »
check my profile for specs..

I drilled up a Warrior last week. I put the pin 1 inch above and between my bridge and ring finger, CG 1 inch below and out under ring and the psa is right on my thumb just off to the right. I wanted something to go about 45-50 feet without over hooking of the dry. This ball is it. I threw it last night and it went about 45 feet and just tipped at the end towards the pocket and crushed the rack.. The hitting power is a little less then what I was expecting, but with a layout like I have, I can't complain. This is going to be the ball of choice on short patterns along with my Blade solid, Ti Pearl b/s/p, and Sonic X.

control- 9
versatility- 8
hook- 8.5

I'll give the warrior an 8.5

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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2003, 03:26:16 PM »
Ehh...not really happy with my Warrior, I've heard and seen much success with this ball in the hands of others, but i've not yet witnessed that success.  My driller (whom I no longer go to now) claimed that the CG was mismarked on this ball by almost an inch (I believe that's what he said, i took it as a grain of salt though since he doesn't seem very knowledgable, especially after claiming this ball is a particle pearl).

Comments on my game are in my profile, ball is drilled with Pin directly under ring finger and CG directly under that, above the thumb, and two inches away from Pin.  The ball does get down the lane fairly nicely (as it should for having the Big Daddy Pearl coverstock) but it's movement on the backends leaves MUCH to be desired.  On oil it doesn't seem to grab well at all and mostly hydroplanes and hits like a marshmallow.  On dry there doesn't seem to be enough to get it down the lane before making its move, causing it to roll out and hit like a tricycle.  The only lane condition I have really had any success on (albeit very little success) is flooded heads and TOASTED backends.  The ball seems to glide through the heads very nicely and makes a sharp left turn when it hits the dry, the problem with that is it seems to make too sharp of a turn causing me to leave splits all day.  

Overall this ball from what I have witnessed is a good ball, but from what I have experienced myself is it's just not the ball for me.
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Re: TPC Warrior
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2003, 11:52:21 PM »
I have also seen many others have success with this ball.  But I never had too many good games with it.  The ball looks great, but it is horrible when the carry-down begins kicking in at the house I bowl in.  The reaction is different almost every ball you throw with same speed and rotation.  I didn't quite understand why the ball does this.  But, I loved the reaction it brought to the pins.  It went maybe 40-45 feet and snapped at the backend right towards the pocket and smashed it.  Maybe the ball will work better for other bowlers in other houses.  I had to give it a try with it's awesome looks.  I think I will just put this ball in the basement for a while and get something else.  Overall though, it's not a bad ball...I would rate it 7.5 out of 10.
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