Well I can say it is one sick ball. Compared to an OOB Fury, the NV actually made it around the corner with no burn out and was HUGE. The Fury just puked when it hit the dry too early. The TNV was no where as strong as the NV, it is much longer, and I dont think the backend was as strong. The NV is a pretty much perfect ball for what most ppl want in an oiler. Its strong enough to make it through the oil, and still has a HUGE backend.