Sir,

if you do find somewhere that sells it still, I would really appreciate it if you could inform me.  That is one nice ball for light oiling.

thanks.

If you can sling a heavy 15 pounder there is one on ebay......pretty cheap too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ebonite-Vortex-Afterburner-Reactive-Bowling-Ball-16-LBS-/360619728595?pt=Bowling&hash=item53f69c5ed3

Cav,

In all honesty, I understand how you can like its reaction and what it does for you, but you must understand that the ball is 13 years old and was probably discontinued at least 11 years ago. Its relevance to today's environment is virtually non-existent, because you'd have to be very lucky to find even a used one available anywhere ...

Jeff,  I'm going to have to disagree...

Due to a large stock of NIB old stock available at my local pro shop I've had the opportunity to play with equipment that hasn't been advertised in a decade.

I put a fairly standard layout on a 14# Brunswick Combat Zone Tracer and traded it away because, even for my speed dominate style, it forced me to play the lanes deeper than my comfort zone.  I still see the high school bowler I traded it with use it along side much newer equipment.

I drilled up a 14# Ebonite Tiger after that and have found that, even with the pin below my bridge (more than 5" pin to PAP), it still exhibits the ability to turn the corner quite well on a medium-heavy THS on Brunswick Proanvilane.

Now I'm sure that there are decade old pieces that don't eclipse new technology, but that's not to say that they don't still hold their own and can't fill a spot in an arsenal.

I will say the reaction that Cav and amb1 are accustomed to might not be what they find in a NIB Afterburner.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure there is at least one 15# NIB Afterburner in stock locally.  The specs likely leave something to be desired though...

Jeff... I am being realistic.  I am relating what I saw with new equipment that happened to be made in another era.

What type of reality are you basing your opinion on?  Equipment that was made and used in another era?

This isn't an argument on what would work or not work from yesteryear. This is about the likelihood of cav finding a nib afterburner around his neck of the woods.

BTW, Tiger was a monster of a ball. Still is.

V-2 is stiil a beast too!

Jeff... I am being realistic.  I am relating what I saw with new equipment that happened to be made in another era.

What type of reality are you basing your opinion on?  Equipment that was made and used in another era?

Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

I did not at all disagree with the efficacy of using good older balls. I disagree with leading people on that they should go search for such good equipment because they are so old that they are very hard to find. If you do find them, they are few and far between. I know lots of great older balls, but I'd never post how much I love them right now and tell people to go try to find them, now 10 - 15 years later. Heck, 5 year old balls can be very hard to find.