Author Topic: Anyone have the Pursuit-S? (Read 10501 times)

lefty50 · « **on:** September 06, 2012, 08:18:38 AM »

I just noticed that the Pursuit-S is already on closeout and there's not much here on the board.... specs on this are right my alley (pun intended), but sure not feeling the love.

What's the word?

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2012, 08:36:32 AM »

I have one, have only 2 games on it as I havent quite seen enough oil for it. I've brought it up to a 4000 abralon pad to help it get down lane. I'll let you know what I think of it as soon as I put a few games on it at that surface.

From the little I can tell, this will be a good strong ball for fresh / longer patterns. It does need some oil though. I'll probably bring the cover back down to 2000 for tournaments etc.

stc067 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2012, 03:04:58 PM »

1000! I have the Pursuit(not the S) it is a very strong ball, and is definitely intended for heavier,or longer patterns.

lefty50 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2012, 05:04:40 PM »

This is beginning to feel like dÃ©jÃ vu. First, I am amazed at the number of posts I have seen throughout the board where people say I have the Pursuit (not the -S).. Interesting. Secondly, I'm getting the distinct feeling that this is one of those " first release in a series" balls where the cover and core don't really match up, therefore yielding a very condition specific product. I hope I'm wrong, because at the closeout price it's too good a deal to pass up

Playing devil's advocate, anyone else want to bet that that's the reason for the ebonite teaser video that looks like another Pursuit is coming?...

stc067 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2012, 06:23:46 PM »

I think the cover and core match up fine,it's just a very agressive ball like the Nano, Revenge,and other high end hook monsters.

charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2012, 07:37:52 PM »

Quote from: stc067 on September 06, 2012, 06:23:46 PM

I think the cover and core match up fine,it's just a very agressive ball like the Nano, Revenge,and other high end hook monsters.

I disagree. The Pursuits, both of them, are finished to 1500 grit. That's very rough, in terms of today's covers where the roughest and earliest hooking balls are generally at 2000 grit, with the Nano and many other oilers at 4000 grit.

I tried a Train on some pretty heavy oil and it's all but unusable at the stock 1500 grit, the same stock surface as the Pursuits. I think these balls would be significantly more usable, FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF BOWLERS, ON HEAVY OIL, at 3000 or 4000 grit. If someone were severely biased towards high ball speed AND low revs, they could take such ball as low as is permissible by the current rules to allow their use of them.For most of us, use of these balls at 1500 grit would leave many with 5-7s and 8-10s, on the right side.

stc067 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2012, 08:31:58 PM »

Quote from: stc067 on September 06, 2012, 06:23:46 PM

I think the cover and core match up fine,it's just a very agressive ball like the Nano, Revenge,and other high end hook monsters.

I purchased this ball for the rare occasion when I hit heavy oil,And the couple of times I have run into this condition it has performed admirably. I have other balls for mediumand light patterns. The Pursuit can be used on a greater variety of conditions by adjusting the surface, but those aren't the conditions that I purchased it for.

Sikxer · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2012, 08:40:44 AM »

I just drilled one up (Pursuit-S) as the price was too good to pass on. What I was hoping for was a stronger version of my Gamebreaker. I cannot tell you how many times I've been in a tournament and wished I had a ball with the same motion, but only stronger! I got exactly that.. Even with the surface, the ball gets down the lane and still manages to conserve it's energy. Don't get me wrong though, it definitely needs some oil at the box finish, but I was pleasantly surprised by it's strength and energy retention. Mine was drilled 50x4-1/4x30, and I think my Gamebreaker is 40x4-3/4x30
Hope this helps.. -Sikxer

lefty50 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2012, 10:10:56 AM »

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I can also relate well to it since I've felt the same about my Gamebreaker...

Impending Doom · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2012, 10:30:42 AM »

Quote from: charlest on September 06, 2012, 07:37:52 PM

Quote from: stc067 on September 06, 2012, 06:23:46 PM
I think the cover and core match up fine,it's just a very agressive ball like the Nano, Revenge,and other high end hook monsters.

I disagree. The Pursuits, both of them, are finished to 1500 grit. That's very rough, in terms of today's covers where the roughest and earliest hooking balls are generally at 2000 grit, with the Nano and many other oilers at 4000 grit.

I tried a Train on some pretty heavy oil and it's all but unusable at the stock 1500 grit, the same stock surface as the Pursuits. I think these balls would be significantly more usable, FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF BOWLERS, ON HEAVY OIL, at 3000 or 4000 grit. If someone were severely biased towards high ball speed AND low revs, they could take such ball as low as is permissible by the current rules to allow their use of them.For most of us, use of these balls at 1500 grit would leave many with 5-7s and 8-10s, on the right side.

I personally felt that the Train oob was silly early. I mean, I was bowling on a fresh kegel pattern, and the ball was reading the lane at 30 feet and puking.

The videos I've seen with cover changes on that ball, E is just too early, A looks better, and T looks even better still.

Still can't wait to still another one to actually flip.

jls · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2012, 09:24:03 AM »

IMO, the only problem I feel these balls had was this...The time of the year
they were released... Now I know Ebonite and Storm are known for releasing
a HP ball every year at this time...

But this year with the economy, I feel less bowlers were going to tournaments..
Thus not as much demand for a HP ball...Also back home, more and more
houses were going with lighter oil patterns...

Now as for the feedback on BOTH balls...That was excellent from those
who used the balls on the right condition...In many case bowlers used the
ball where they should not have...

As GT said...He had not used his ball much do to a lack of oil...However
most bowlers are NOT arsenal bowlers...Most are ONE ball bowlers...

Their new ball is a Bread and Butter Ball and they use it everywhere...
Now it is extremely difficult to use such a strong ball on lighter patterns...

So if you are looking for a snowplow...and this ball is now on closeout...
IMO it is a great deal...

Just use it on Oil...Heavy oil...and or longer patterns.

You don't wear a heavy winter jacket in Florida in July...

lefty50 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2012, 09:53:48 AM »

@jls - that is a fair point and I appreciate the feedback. Being a low rev left-hander, I typically see "effectively" more oil on a condition than the other side of the house. If I had the proverbial nickel for every night I'm bowling on ice when the right-hand side of the house is a piece of cake, I would've retired by now. But, that is another conversation for another time and I do not want to start a religious war. The point in this case is that the Pursuit S may indeed have functionality for my style of Bowling. I just ordered a Maxxed Out, but if the online dealer ever gives me the courtesy of a reply to my e-mail, I may go ahead and get this ball too.
Thanks for the feedback

stc067 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2012, 11:44:20 AM »

@jls-I agree completely about when the Pursuits were released. When I saw the teasers,and the initial videos on the ball, I thought it was an odd time to come out with a new HP ball.I also think the ball hasn't been given a fair chance,but that is par for the course for EBI.

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2012, 01:45:07 PM »

Brought my Pursuit-S up to a mildly used 2000 abralon for 30 seconds on 2 sides, then touched by a fresh 4000 pad for 10.

The ball is flat out rock solid on a THS so far (20 games). Core/Cover combo matches up very good for me by making a controllable, yet large move to the pocket.

I've also been using it on synthetics and wood lanes, with it rolling good on both.

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2012, 02:17:23 PM »

Saw 2 the other day on a league shot.

1 bowler had been doing great for months with his Mission X(more jump off the spot).

This ball seemed to be smoother but strong archy hook and he shot I believe 77X the other team member using one shot 750 something.

The are both excellant bowlers with good speed loft and revs.

Regards,

Luckylefty

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lefty50

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