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Striking Motion first impression
« on: October 24, 2008, 08:01:12 PM »
First of all I have to say that this ball is something that the bowling world has never seen before. I was able to watch it thrown tonight by Bryan Komornik. Was one of the demo balls that ebonite was using but this one was plugged to fit him. Looked to be able a 3 inch pin that was located just right and up of the ring finger cg slightly kicked in and the MB looked to be about a 75-80 degree setting. This is a very nice looking ball, just a great looking blue and with the color of the logos makes it look even better.

First few shots I saw him toss my eyes were just wide open. I say this because I saw the ball get through the heads very nice and start to rev and it was turning hard. I was waiting for the core to kick in and just flip the ball and see how drastic it would be, since it seemed like it was about to just take off. TO my surprise it just kept revving and revving and in a smooth, strong, and continuous motion moved to the pocket. I cannot really think of another ball that showed that much power in the way it looked to be so controllable at the same time.

Although in the few practice shots that he threw the ball motion just looked fantastic, but it seemed like he was just missing the mark slightly. Now by the way this was out of box at 4000 and had a slight shine to it after beeing used for a bit. What he did next just scrambled my brains. He took a 2000 abralon pad and by hand I must say scuff it up lightly. When most people do this they might see a slightly earlier reaction or more control depending on how hard you it the ball. I kid you not this striking motion read the lane about 6-8 feet earlier and just started to demolish the racks. In less than 2 mins of scuffing this ball by hand not hitting it hard it became the absolute nuts. Also what is really sick about this is the flaring of the ball. It did flare a good amount about 5-8 rings but, they were extremely tight now I might be looked at weird for this but I would say that you might be able to fit the tip of a pencil in-between these flares because of how tight they were.

As, I was talking to Bryan he was telling me that they were this tight because of how small the core in this thing is. Well for how small of a core it has, does not affect the hitting power. One of the hardest hitting balls I have ever seen. Then he tells me something that shocked me. With this new type of core it is being made that when you drill the ball you have a better chance not to hit the core so it can stay in tack to its fullest. For one I think that is awesome because that allows bowlers to see the true potential of what the core can do. Plus that leaves more doors open for drillings that can really make this seem like the golden ball. He did also say that this is a ball that will do what you drill it to do. If you drill it strong it will be strong and if you drill it weak it will be weak.
He did shoot 780 with it tonight and was high in the league so it is a good start.

This is just a brief review of what I saw when he threw it. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
There is only one bad thing I can say about this.............

I have to wait until NOV 11 to get one, which is so not fair lol.

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 10:15:35 AM »
Wow a real informational post about the Striking Motion, it sounds interesting to say the least. That is alot earlier with a slight scuff, the cover must be really really strong for that to effect it that much.

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 09:25:43 PM »
It seems very strong and it seems like they are trying to allow the cover to control the ball motion more then with the core. It was very nice.
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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 06:55:03 PM »
Make sure you check Ebonite's website to see if the Strike Team is coming to your town so you can try them out for yourself.

http://ebonite.com/news_events/news_detail/strike_team_challenge_is_coming_near_you

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 11:48:06 PM »
First, let me say thanks Mike, and I am glad you liked what you saw.

I now have had the chance to throw this ball on a few different conditions including a house pattern in league and a flat sport pattern at 39 ft with a decent volume of oil and have been nothing but impressed! It is a 4 1/8 by 85 degree drilling for me.

On the house condition it reacted just as Mike had described and I put up a pretty nice series. On the flatter pattern it read the spot very well and was great when they were fresh playing up the lane between 4-7. When the lanes broke down, I was able to move 26 left (yes I committed to that big of change when the lanes transitioned and became over/under), play around 20 and regain the controllable reaction. I just found this ball to be great from all angles!

The StrikingMotion has a brand new, innovative core and surface released by Ebonite.

The surface is called Super Shell 1.0. It is an EXTREMELY manageable, durable and versatile surface. The ball comes at 4000 abralon (no factory finish polish) but I have modified it to 2000, 1000 and shined it with Powerhouse Factory Finish from 2000 and I have had three completely different motions. At 2000, I found the ball to hook about 5-6 feet earlier. 1000 gave me about 2 to 3 feet earlier transition and motion. When polished the motion changed to be about 5 feet later and almost ideal for playing the track. However, despite the surface, I feel the best quality is I did not lose any hit, in other words, the ball still got through the deck and hit very hard despite all of the alterations.

I feel the core of this ball really allows it to be a players ball. If you drill this ball strong, you are going to get a strong reaction and the same with a weak layout. This ball allows for it to be drilled to match your game and the motion you need!(FYI do not be afraid to drill these strong but make sure to drill off of your own PAP and talk to your pro shop operator about the type of reaction you are looking for). The shape of this core has delivered such a strong tumble and very controllable and predictable reaction. Best of all (yes, theres more complimentary aspects) this ball keeps the pins low. In the past week of having it, I have carried more 1/2 pocket hits and snapped the 10 out on shots I thought for sure would had left the corner pin standing. Keeping the pins lower naturally allows for more pin action and better chances for carry. This ball just doesn't quit getting through the pins!

In regards to the flare lines, I flared the ball approximately 4 1/2 inches. This ball is unique that out of the box (or sanded) the flare lines are extremely tight. This is why Mike thought he saw only 5-8 rings. It was closer to 16-18 rings but the lines are actually tight and almost right on top of each other. When drilling this ball, make sure to throw it before putting a hole in it (if needed). If you are a higher rev player and looking for increased back end / flare, a hole may not achieve this. I highly highly recommend modifying your reaction through surface. For lower rev rate players, a hole may be the perfect solution. If you throw the ball w/o a hole and find that you flare the ball greater then 4 inches you would be classified as a higher rev player.

If you want a ball that is manageable, will give you predictability, versatile enough to be drilled to match up to your game and needs and WIN, the Striking Motion is it!

If anyone has any questions regarding the StrikingMotion please do not hesitate to ask or send me a message - this is the next WOW ball Ebonite is releasing on November 11th.

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 11:55:47 PM »
Bryan,

Your PAP and stats.?  Suggest you put them in your profile.
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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 12:14:53 AM »
The only thing I can say next is maybe if Bryan would be so kind I could get some videos of it and post them so everyone can get a sneak peak lol
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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 12:41:36 PM »
I got a chance to throw this ball in league last week and all I can say is WOW!!! In the past I haven't cared for ebonite's equipment but this ball blew my mind.

I was bowling on a 2nd shift shot with no oil up front or outside. I didn't get any practice and started throwing a really skid snap ball. This ball would get down the lane but would punch the noise and if I threw it faster it would leave corner pins.

I then went up to the ebonite stand and got one of these balls. It took me a few more frames to line up but once I did I had about 6 boards of room. I could miss out to the dry and it would hold up and not over react and I could miss inside and it would shred the rack. At the start of the second game I ran the front 6, stone 9, high flush 4 pin and a ring 10. This is also a tough carry house on good nights. After that I put it away and grabbed something less aggressive. I ordered my ball the next day and can't wait until I get it and can try it on some other shots. I really think this will be a great ball on fresh house shots. This ball gave me a look I have never gotten from any other ball and I buy a lot of balls. Absolutely amazing.

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 12:51:59 PM »
Bryan,
Did Rich Blake drill that ball for you at Chicago's Bowlers Shop ?
He was talking about the characteristics of that ball, and what he saw when you threw it. Sounds impressive. I am a Roto/Storm guy, but this one I think I might have to pursue.

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 03:34:35 PM »
Hey everyone!

First, my stats are the following:
PAP: 4 13/16 right 1/8 down
SPEED: 16.5 to 17 mph
REV: High

Let me know if you need any more info on the above...

I do get my equipment drilled at Chicago Bowler's Shop by Rich. He's awesome!

This ball will definitely have you thinking differently about what you are going to grab out of the bag first. I feel it is going to give you a lot less over/under reaction that you may see out of the storm/roto stuff, especially when the lanes transition.

Ebonite once again is being innovative and changing the industry br bringing demo balls to leagues across the country to allow you to try them first hand before they come out. I had the honor to help out with the Strike Teamin Mudelein IL and Wheaton IL. There will also be one in Tinley Park in early Nov that I will be at as well if you missed the last two. Its a great idea and we have had great feedback. Definitely look to see when they are coming to an area near you. Even if you are not in the league there are typically practice lanes designated just for the ball. PLUS ITS FREE!!!! There are some things that are too good to be true - this is not one of them!

Go here to see where the team will be next: http://ebonite.com/news_events/news_detail/strike_team_challenge_is_coming_near_you


In regards to video, we are putting together some clips and videos as well as trying to develop a site to do just as you requested mike. I will try to have it out as soon as possible. The site will display the ebonite brands and new equipment to allow you to see the motion and the reaction you'll see from different areas of the lane plus some bonus items that you'll have to visit to see. I will keep you all posted when this is ready, so stay tuned (c:

Thanks everyone and let me know if you have any other questions!
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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2008, 07:19:31 PM »
Bryan,

How much stronger would you compare the NVD to the new striking motion with a similar layout/surface prep?

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 10:53:31 PM »
The strike team came to my city today.. All I can say is wow.. I love the ball, and the reaction.. The only thing is they only have a very basic drilling that I would not put on the ball if I had it drilled for me. The ball reacts to friction quickly and is very continuous. The pin on the ball was just above and right of the ring finger  on the ball I threw. The surface was wood so it created a tad more friction as the pattern started to breakdown so during the second game I was basically lofting the gutter.. The ball hits like a ton of bricks though.. I will add more a lil bit later.. Oh and by the way i'm in flint michiagn and they came to Richfield Bowl.. I think the crew that was there said they would be in michigan for the rest of this week So be on the lookout if you in michigan

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 12:23:19 PM »
RE: Bryan,

How much stronger would you compare the NVD to the new striking motion with a similar layout/surface prep?

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Hi again!

In response to your question, I will first say this ball is just different! Referring back to the new core/cover combination this is giving you a completely different motion then what you have seen with anything else, from any other company.

Comparing the StrikingMotion to my NVD - I drilled this 4 in by 105 degrees - the NVD is about a foot earlier with a completely different look in the backend.

If my Striking Motion was drilled like my NVD I think it would be way too weak and would not give a good look - but keep in mind the new core here, and this is why. However, reversing the scenario and drilling the NVD like my StrikingMotion I believer the StrikingMotion would be cleaner through the front part of the lane with a cleaner and stronger transition in the mids and then depending on the surface and MB placement relating to your style and ball roll, the Motion will be a little less angular off of the spot. I think the SM will give you a more continuous motion then an NVD and may be a little more versatile in terms of lane play.

Either way, both balls are a great asset to any arsenal. I love my NVD and have been able to create a lot of area with it when the lanes transition and I can move in with it. The NVD, for me, combines the great length of the Total NV but with a much better backend motion. My Total NV had the tendency to "wiggle" or miss the spot when I encountered carry-down but the NVD solves this problem without any issue.

Let me know if there are any other questions guys. Remember then release date is Nov 11th!!!

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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2008, 12:35:30 PM »
I picked up the Striking Motion on tuesday after league when John Gaines had the demo session wrapping up. I just wanted to throw the ball to get an idea of what we would be selling in our shop.

My first impression of the ball was that it was not much different than my Dimension that I had thrown all night during league on the same house shot. So I decided to play different angles at the release point and I was impressed with the recovery room the ball had. I was able to jump inside and out and managed to punch out a 279 silly 9 pin in the tenth frame.

From what I saw around the league when people were doing the demo, was that if you were rev challenged, this ball was the ball for you. At the same time if you were a rev dominant player you were able to open the lane up with Striking Motion.

The cover on Striking Motion definitely makes up for the small core inside, and the ball itself was not lacking in hitting power one bit.

As a guy who throws all storm equipment, I ,for once, am impressed by this release coming from Ebonite International
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Re: Striking Motion first impression
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 10:48:30 AM »
opening up the lane is what it is all about! if you can give yourself a few extra boards then you have an advantage over everyone else!

mike and bryan thanks for the reports, ill be coming to mt prospect over xmas break so maybe ill see it then! tell everyone i said hello.
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