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Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: wer4u2nv on January 30, 2008, 05:13:11 AM
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Seeing what everyones inital impressions are of this ball? anyone
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Drilled one up last night after my league play. Threw a few shots with it. All I can say this ball is amazing. I have every ball in the NV line, by far this is the strongest. Ball picks up great. It clears the heads with ease. For it to be a non pearlized ball, it has a ton of backend snap. I will put more info about the ball after I throw a few more times. I will also tell you what layout I used..
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GhettoBowler
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But the Complete NV is a Pearl. Mine actually looks terrible, color wise. Tons and tons of silver with big white splashes in it, with alittle blue and purple in it. Considering not drilling it do to the color scheme.
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have a picture? sounds cool!
Matt
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Hey gettobowler could you compare it to anything?
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Mike Marchak
Ebonite Bowling The World Over
In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".
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Mine actually looks terrible, color wise. Considering not drilling it do to the color scheme.
I don't get it.
Does a "pretty" ball come with more strikes inside
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Jon (in Ohio)
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It looks like a cool looking ball. But will it be better then the NVS. I was not happy with that ball.
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Another great review not. People always coming on here saying stuff like I threw a couple shots with it and the ball is flat out amazing. You cannot tell after a couple shots with anyball. It needs to be thrown on different conditions and at minimum 50 games to know how it will truly react. Heck I saw one guy on a actuall review say I got mine last night I havent drilled it yet but I can tell by looking at it that its gonna hit like a truck and roll awesome.
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Good point 86. But I feel that you could tell what is to be expected from the ball after a few shots. I have thrown balls that sucked the first time I threw them. And you know what? They still sucked when I tried to use them from time to time. I also have thrown balls that reacted great from day one and they still are.
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you don't have to throw a ball for 50 games to give it a fair review.. I agree more than a few shots are needed to give a fair opinion of the ball, but no way 50 games are needed..
I say after 5 or 6 games I know what to expect out of a ball..
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Edited on 1/31/2008 9:58 AM
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Novawagonmaster,
No a "pretty" ball doesnt come with more strikes, it is all a personal preference. I myself dont have tons and tons of revs and balls with alot of color I find very difficult to actually get a read of what the ball is doing. The more contrast in color the more the ball appears to be lopping. Do to this appearance I find it more difficult to see when the ball is coming off of the breakpoint. Years ago I had an Erase-It that was a very good ball and I shot some decent scores with it, but many of times I absolutely could not tell where the ball was reading at because it alwasy looked like it was doing nothing. Because of this I prefer balls that are darker or more solid in color. Now I have already seen some Complete NV's that look like a dark blue pearl, for myself I would much rather have that then the ball I ended up with. If I had my own choice I would be completely happy if every ball was made black and black pearl. So no the color has nothing to do with ball performance it is just a personal preference.
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Novawagonmaster,
No a "pretty" ball doesnt come with more strikes, it is all a personal preference. I myself dont have tons and tons of revs and balls with alot of color I find very difficult to actually get a read of what the ball is doing. The more contrast in color the more the ball appears to be lopping. Do to this appearance I find it more difficult to see when the ball is coming off of the breakpoint. Years ago I had an Erase-It that was a very good ball and I shot some decent scores with it, but many of times I absolutely could not tell where the ball was reading at because it alwasy looked like it was doing nothing. Because of this I prefer balls that are darker or more solid in color. Now I have already seen some Complete NV's that look like a dark blue pearl, for myself I would much rather have that then the ball I ended up with. If I had my own choice I would be completely happy if every ball was made black and black pearl. So no the color has nothing to do with ball performance it is just a personal preference.
I get what you are saying. For the same reason, I always wondered why a guy would put black grips in a black ball. Any ball with a mix of colors is easy to read, and on solid colored balls, I just use a contrasting color for the grips. That would be my suggestion to you as well...just use grips that stand out from the other colors on the ball.
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Jon (in Ohio)
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For the same reason, I always wondered why a guy would put black grips in a black ball.
I do that so that I *don't* see just how few revs I have. 
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...formerly "The Curse of Dusty," and "Poöter Boöf" before that...
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Novawagonmaster,
No a "pretty" ball doesnt come with more strikes, it is all a personal preference. I myself dont have tons and tons of revs and balls with alot of color I find very difficult to actually get a read of what the ball is doing. The more contrast in color the more the ball appears to be lopping. Do to this appearance I find it more difficult to see when the ball is coming off of the breakpoint. Years ago I had an Erase-It that was a very good ball and I shot some decent scores with it, but many of times I absolutely could not tell where the ball was reading at because it alwasy looked like it was doing nothing. Because of this I prefer balls that are darker or more solid in color. Now I have already seen some Complete NV's that look like a dark blue pearl, for myself I would much rather have that then the ball I ended up with. If I had my own choice I would be completely happy if every ball was made black and black pearl. So no the color has nothing to do with ball performance it is just a personal preference.
I get what you are saying. For the same reason, I always wondered why a guy would put black grips in a black ball. Any ball with a mix of colors is easy to read, and on solid colored balls, I just use a contrasting color for the grips. That would be my suggestion to you as well...just use grips that stand out from the other colors on the ball.
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Jon (in Ohio)
This, in my opinion is ridiculous. Clashing grip/thumb slug colors on opposite colored balls is ugly and seems very "kid like" to me. It does not portray a certain professionalism that clear/black grips/thumb slugs do.
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Mea Culpa
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Novawagonmaster,
No a "pretty" ball doesnt come with more strikes, it is all a personal preference. I myself dont have tons and tons of revs and balls with alot of color I find very difficult to actually get a read of what the ball is doing. The more contrast in color the more the ball appears to be lopping. Do to this appearance I find it more difficult to see when the ball is coming off of the breakpoint. Years ago I had an Erase-It that was a very good ball and I shot some decent scores with it, but many of times I absolutely could not tell where the ball was reading at because it alwasy looked like it was doing nothing. Because of this I prefer balls that are darker or more solid in color. Now I have already seen some Complete NV's that look like a dark blue pearl, for myself I would much rather have that then the ball I ended up with. If I had my own choice I would be completely happy if every ball was made black and black pearl. So no the color has nothing to do with ball performance it is just a personal preference.
I get what you are saying. For the same reason, I always wondered why a guy would put black grips in a black ball. Any ball with a mix of colors is easy to read, and on solid colored balls, I just use a contrasting color for the grips. That would be my suggestion to you as well...just use grips that stand out from the other colors on the ball.
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Jon (in Ohio)
This, in my opinion is ridiculous. Clashing grip/thumb slug colors on opposite colored balls is ugly and seems very "kid like" to me. It does not portray a certain professionalism that clear/black grips/thumb slugs do.
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Mea Culpa
I typed "contrast", and you read "opposite" and "clash".
I only use two color grips...white and black.
I use white on dark colored balls and black on light colored balls.
Nowhere did I mention hot pink, lime green, or flourescent orange.
If you like wild colors go for it, but it is not needed to obtain "contrast".
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Jon (in Ohio)
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I personally use clear grips simply because I prefer the tacky feel they have compared to colored grips, which feel harder and slicker to me in general. However, it's annoying when I'm using a dark colored ball without much contrast, such as my Special Agent, because I cannot see how it rolls and flares down the lane as well as I could with contrasting colored grips. The Complete NV I saw in the pro shop I frequent was almost entirely blue -- it looked good, but that'd be another case of a ball I'd have trouble seeing how it rolls.
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Everything I say gets turned around. I didnt say a ball cannot be said its good til 50 games what I said is that you cant give an honest review after only a few shots. You can say I bowled on a set of burnt lanes after league and like how it rolled. Or I bowled on a fresh medium shot and like it or heavy or whatever. What I simply meant is to know how the ball rolls on differnent conditions to give an accurate review on all conditions and not one. For me I like to give at least 50 sometimes 100 games that way I can tell if the ball is keeping its original reaction or if it loses the reaction after only a few games. Most new balls people are like I love it but after 30 40 50 games they complain it doesnt roll well anymore thats What I like to do People saying stuff is good after only a few shots I simply see that and skip on. Unless its a plastic spare ball that goes straight all the time you cant throw a few shots and say its great on carry down or heavy oil and dry lanes you actually have to throw it on those first to know how it will act.
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Everything I say gets turned around.
Welcome to BallReviews...enjoy your stay. 
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...formerly "The Curse of Dusty," and "Poöter Boöf" before that...
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i havent thrown one ,and probably wont ,but for what its worth,I was bowling with a guy yesterday and he was using a polished rising and a black widow that were really not finishing all that great He had to move way right slow down the speed and point to the pocket.
While we were bowling unbeknownst to me he was having a complete drilled. the driller brought the ball out to him and it was a marked difference in finish and carry compared to the other 2. He is more of a down and in type player . I was using my rising and a pluto ,but i cover many more boards than he does on any type shot. I could have played my polished hercules on this same shot with success. But for him it was probably a good 7 board improvement over the other 2 he was using.
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Novawagonmaster,
I use black grips and black slugs in EVERYTHING, no matter what color the ball is. I really dont like seeing the colors going down the lane. I would just as soon do what Brian Voss use to do, black everything and etch out the label paint.
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Novawagonmaster,
I use black grips and black slugs in EVERYTHING, no matter what color the ball is. I really dont like seeing the colors going down the lane. I would just as soon do what Brian Voss use to do, black everything and etch out the label paint.
That's cool...whatever works for you. I'm OK with it.
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Jon (in Ohio)