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lefty50

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Diagnosing problem with my V2 Strong
« on: June 07, 2004, 06:24:01 PM »
Posting this here and in coverstock forum I guess... Problem concerns my V2 Strong probably...
Serious feedback appreciated. I'll give you all equipment and stats I know. I need help diagnosing the problem. I really need to figure this out. Career bad night in league last night. Went in with a V2 Strong, Vendetta particle, and Trauma ER, all dulled to 600-800.

Lefty stats...
PAP 4-1/4 by 1/2 up.
Low rev tweener throwing 17 MPH at release.
60-90 degree axis rotation. CATS at Reno came out at 90.
Equipment:
ER drilled pin under ring, 3 inch pin with CG kicked out 1/2 inch, balance hole below PAP
Vendetta drilled 3-3/8 stacked just under ring, 2 inch pin with CG straight down.
V2 Strong drilled pin next to ring, 3 inch pin, CG straight down, balance hole below PAP
3 lefties on pair last night.
I never have used polish. Low rev lefties and polish are a bad combination usually. I've ALWAYS throw it thru the breakpoint with polish, anytime, anywhere, no exceptions.

Last night:
Left of 5 was O/B for everybody, everything. Inside of 10 seemed to have same problem. Shot was like bowling in a tunnel between 5-8 for any reaction. Both other lefties were doing well.

ER was visibly hooking off my hand, easy to read. Wrong ball.
Vendetta (squirrely ball) was flat out inconsistent. Ice skating left of 5, ice skating in oil inside 10, Squirrrely in the tunnel.
I tried the V2 in the O/B, it moved 1 board, wouldn't come out.
I tried the V2 in oil inside 10 straight up... It moved 2-3 boards, hit like mush.
I tried the tunnel in 5-8.. Absolutely dead, might as well shoot it and get it over with.

After league, I stuck around the pair to see what was going on.
Obviously too dry for Trauma, crossing over.. No good.
I tried the Vendetta swinging out 16-8. Eureka! Hook city, recovered, massive strike potential. I diagnose that as me finally having found some oil on a dry night??

AHA I thought, the V2 strong should be ok here too now that I know what's up.  I should be able to find a line.
Tried the same swing. Embarrassing. Lope, dead, can't get back to pocket anywhere close to the Vendetta.
If I can't use it in oil like the inside of 10 shot, and can't swing it out with recovery, what the heck good is it? It's done that pretty much everywhere, every thing I try with it is just a major disappointment.
Funny thing is, I bought it cuz of the Ebonite Demo Day, where the ball I threw was great.

Question... Is it possible that the V2 Strong is too strong, still burning out? Is it condition specific? If the Vendetta particle turns really well, and I found oil inside, I expected SOMETHING from the V2, but it throws, rolls, and hits like mush, everytime, everywhere.. I bought it for a sport shot, but only got minimal reaction there also.
Sigh....
Is it drilling, particle, or the V2?
Funny thing is, I just bought a V2 particle to try out. If I'm right, the problem will only get worse.
Thoughts?

Edited on 6/8/2004 9:26 AM

Edited on 6/8/2004 9:26 AM

 

ambi1

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Re: Diagnosing problem with my V2 Strong
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 02:53:26 AM »
lefty50...

cna't answer all your question as we don't all the facts.. but a few observations that I have made that could be related...

1) I was planning to purchase a V2 strong from a friend who had only 7 FRAMES on it!  The guy was disgusted because the ball was literally breaking at about 28 to 30 feet on a fresh house shot.. I had him throw the ball, I saw it... and you know what? That ball was at 1500 at least... I didn't get the ball, no because it wasn't good... but because it was too strong... and because of budget constraints and some equipment overlap.

2) I have 2 panteras... one is drilled about 4 X 4.5 pin slightly above ring at 2 oclock (1200 grit)... it has about close to 3000 games.  In a fresh house condition, I used it once and it was sluggish... so I was thinking coverstock death... but a few weeks later, I was on another fresh house condition WITH A HEAVIER volume of oil and the ball was coming back like it was new...


With this in mind... I would guess that your V2 strong might need heavier oil volumes too work.. I now pay attention to the specs ebonite posts at their site re the angle and volumes of oil suited for the balls.  Even my intensity (drilled rev lev, pin below ring), which I polished recently (ebonite particle polish), was rolling out on a pattern of 35' feet top hat with 21 ml of oil, I was standing 27, drop zone at about 20-21 at the foul line, break at 7-8, so even polished an agressive particle cover still needs heavier volumes at the heads..


hope to have helped.
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lefty50

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Re: Diagnosing problem with my V2 Strong
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2004, 08:59:24 PM »
Good point, confirms other scenarios I've seen and thought I was dreaming. You're probably right.... Thanks for the input.


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Re: Diagnosing problem with my V2 Strong
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2004, 01:24:26 PM »

The V2 Strong is really that strong?  How does it compare with an Ultimate Inferno...I have a V2 strong coming and I would like to drill it to compliment the UI.
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