I havent had much luck with mine. It is set up pin over bridge, cg under. If there is carrydown it doesn't seem to want to finish, but if I move right it seems to want to go thru the nose.

 Took it to a tournament where the shot was not as long or wet and as long as I had backends the ball worked great but as soon as the shot got spotty from the play the ball became Over/Under for me.

 Took the polish off it with a scotchbrite(green) pad and it got pretty strong, but I already had a ball I used for the condition it now covered, so I probably won't be using it much.

 To give you an example, the guy I got it from is now using a sonic boom drilled a little stronger and plays the same line while seeming to get a little more "pop" on the backends, but that may br from the drilling, not just the different ball.
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Just call me Darreyl, it's much easier to say!

It handles some carrydown ok, but like Phatdon said, it might need to burn off some of that initial polish to do so.  I've had a couple of surfaces on my Flip - synthetic burn, which was almost like a 1000 grit; rubbing compound/NeoTac Renew-It, which produced a box-like finish.  It's currently a few dozen games into the compound/Renew-it surface.  This seems to be a good surface for me to use on a drier heads and carrydown condition.

Finally got my flip (2nd hand) drilled up last night and hit the lanes.

Pin is above my ring finger, cg about 5 o'clock from the pin.  Ball has a 4" pin.  My pap is about 5 inches, 1/2" up.  so for me this is a 4X3 drill.  Ball had 1/16 of top wt. left.  I'm a very high tracker, track is about 1/4 inch from holes, release was about 60 degrees.  Condition is box with a very light track.

Started with relatively fresh lanes.. some open bowlers ahead of me, but not more than 8 games.  Lanes had medium light oil volume, oiled to 34', not sure how long the buff was.  Ball moved nicely with a strong forward roll after the break.  Started standing left foot at 20, ball skidded (but was revving) and rolled strongly, with this condition I got about 5 boards of swing area at the break point.  Standing at 35, drop zone at about 29 (foul line), I added revs and sent the ball to the 5th board, ball was still able to recover nicely.  Overall a very good ball for fresh lanes.

Some points I notice:
1) pins were keep low most of the time.
2) after 2 games a friend came and joined me, together we put about 20+ games into the lanes.. The flip can handle some light oil carry as long as there is some dry to break on.  We have a friendly center, and before closing, I was allowed to walk the lanes and there was definite oil carry in our lanes, but the flip was still able to perform albeit in some cases there was a bit of "hang" at the break.
3)Ball has excellent recovery, I intentionally babied my shot and the ball still recovered enough to get a light head pin hit.

Hope this helps.
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Edited on 3/17/2004 1:11 AM