Post by: Leonidas on February 14, 2007, 02:15:16 AM
Post by: Greg T on February 14, 2007, 10:19:44 AM
You should probably table this question for a few months. You'll get a better response.
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Post by: jkiser01 on February 14, 2007, 10:27:32 AM
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I think the great slump of 2006-2007 is finally coming to an end!!
Post by: Leonidas on February 14, 2007, 10:37:43 AM
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 14, 2007, 10:41:44 AM
quote:
why spend
$7.95 on a cleaner, and maybe $4.00 on a abralon pad, when you can simply buy a new ball every 4-5 months????
jls, for people like myself that are retired and on "Fixed Income", that is not an option so we are forced to buy the cleaner and a pad.
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Brick
Edited on 2/14/2007 11:40 AM
Post by: jls on February 14, 2007, 10:54:08 AM
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I Pay my dues to this jls31316. Better Coverstock need better maintenance. Thats clear after loosing a Infinite One to my own stupidity. I am asking because i already hear about dying TNVs. No offense, I don't claim its the Ebonites fault.
i totally agree with you. sometimes the problem with these new balls is that the customer can not duplicate the box finish. thus he loses the box finish reaction.
example>>> the tnv is a 4000 abralon pad finish with their polish on it.
the only way one can dupicate this is to start with a 500 pad, and go thru all the steps> 1000, 2000, and 4000 pad, and then polish.
now most people do not do this. at best, they may clean it and re polish, or they may even clean it, hit it with the 4000 pad and re polish it.
but honestly, how many will take the time to go thru all the steps???
even bowlers that i know that have ball spinners, don't always go through all the steps.
also, the 4000 pad finish with polish may not always be suited for every bowler or their needs. some may need to bring the cover down if they are in too much oil.
and after so many games, 30-50, it really helps to have the oil drawn out of ones ball. just cleaning the surface and re sanding or polishing is not always enough.
customer's can go to a good hardware store and buy a bag of oil dry. fill up a bucket with it, and place your ball in there for a day or two. it will draw the oil out of your ball. and then simply do your normal coverstock care.
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jls31316
Post by: jls on February 14, 2007, 10:57:54 AM
quote:quote:
why spend
$7.95 on a cleaner, and maybe $4.00 on a abralon pad, when you can simply buy a new ball every 4-5 months????
jls, for people like myself that are retired and on "Fixed Income", that is not an option so we are forced to buy the cleaner and a pad.
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Brick
Edited on 2/14/2007 11:40 AM
brickguy, i was making a point about many of todays bowlers. basically they are lazy when it comes to cleaning their balls. and think nothing about buying a new ball.
this person i mentioned, had never cleaned his balls, and when he told me this, i said to him, bring the ball in and we will clean it and draw the oil out of it and resand it.
he said, "drill me up a new ball that hooks"
ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jls31316
Edited on 2/14/2007 11:57 AM
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 14, 2007, 11:13:18 AM
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brickguy, i was making a point about many of todays bowlers. basically they are lazy when it comes to cleaning their balls. and think nothing about buying a new ball.
jls, I understand. I was mostly kidding/having fun with you, although there is some truth behind what I said.
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Brick
Post by: jls on February 14, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
quote:quote:
brickguy, i was making a point about many of todays bowlers. basically they are lazy when it comes to cleaning their balls. and think nothing about buying a new ball.
jls, I understand. I was mostly kidding/having fun with you, although there is some truth behind what I said.
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Brick
brickguy, no problem, i was having fun when i said buy a ball rather then a cleaner. it's been snowing here for 3 days, so a little fun is good.
and how many times can one watch the big break 111 ladies only on the golf channel???
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jls31316
Post by: Xfest on February 14, 2007, 11:38:58 AM
But I believe all rumors are wrong on this ball about it dying. Simple cleaning and doing things to the ball regularly is what keeps the ball new and refreshed. It's like us getting a shower, if we don't we stink and drag as* the next day.
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Post by: jls on February 14, 2007, 11:53:17 AM
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JLS your in Indiana correct? Haha, man it seems like this is the most snow I have ever seen in my life in this state. My parents mentioned the blizzard for '78, but I was not born then haha.
But I believe all rumors are wrong on this ball about it dying. Simple cleaning and doing things to the ball regularly is what keeps the ball new and refreshed. It's like us getting a shower, if we don't we stink and drag as* the next day.
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"Ey, Yo Crank! What ball was that?"
the crank, in ill. the storms of 78-79 were bad, but nothing was as bad as jan 26-27, 1967.
and you are 100 % right, in most cases if you keep the ball clean and do normal maintence on it, the cover will last.
of course that means that one must put down the beer one is holding, to proberly clean their ball. and for some>>> that's a problem.
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jls31316
Post by: BenDover on February 14, 2007, 04:08:37 PM
Post by: Jeff Ussery on February 14, 2007, 05:53:27 PM
Sorry it's been so long for me everyone! I've been quite busy of late. It's good to be back.
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Post by: chitown on February 14, 2007, 05:57:26 PM
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just the other day, a bowler bought a new ball because his previous ball stopped hooking. { bought in oct. 06.} on his first nite with the new ball
he shot 693. and was a happy camper. { bowls in 3 leagues }
he never ever cleaned or sanded or did anything to his old ball. why spend
$7.95 on a cleaner, and maybe $4.00 on a abralon pad, when you can simply buy a new ball every 4-5 months????
makes no sense to me, but if that's what they want to do, so be it.
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jls31316
Edited on 2/14/2007 11:56 AM
You actually make a good point. If one goes thru bowling balls that fast then why spend the money on the cleaner. In fact you could proabbly just get by with hot water baths for the bowling balls.
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Post by: Greg T on February 14, 2007, 07:24:09 PM
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ball death = lack of cleaning and maintenance.
Although this is true it is not the only reason. Nobody takes better care of equipment than I do. I have had numerous balls die.
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They had a face off.
Post by: jls on February 15, 2007, 08:54:37 AM
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ball death = lack of cleaning and maintenance.
Although this is true it is not the only reason. Nobody takes better care of equipment than I do. I have had numerous balls die.
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They had a face off.
very true, had two customers yesterday say the very same thing about their hawg zilla, and these guys have a ball spinner!!!! and do the maintence on their balls. so yes it does happen.
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jls31316
Post by: cnimsk on February 16, 2007, 12:14:24 PM
Chuck
Post by: thirtyclean on February 16, 2007, 12:22:30 PM
insane when it comes to ball maintenance and has issues with
his Angular one after about 30-50 games. He is puzzled by the
'death' so to speak. He used Enonite Powerhouse after every
session also. I think there is something to how long the original
reaction will last.
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the times !)
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on February 16, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
quote:quote:
ball death = lack of cleaning and maintenance.
Although this is true it is not the only reason. Nobody takes better care of equipment than I do. I have had numerous balls die.
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They had a face off.
Nobody cares for their balls like Greg.
Nobody.
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