Ebonite sent me my Gamebreaker and I'm waiting on my Playmaker! The Gamebreaker I laid-out with the pin just above and right of ring finger, it's 11/2" from grip center line and 1" above bottom of finger cut line. The cg is 2" right of grip center line and even with midline. I placed a wh 51/2" over and down 3" from pap. This ball is flat amazing and goes sideways at the breakpoint. I have The One(Encore) drilled pin below ring finger and mb 2" right of thumb and it's about 3 to 4 boards less than the Gamebreaker! I can't wait for the Playmaker! Just my $.02, Bruce
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