BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Ebonite => Topic started by: 3835 on January 27, 2011, 10:29:55 AM

Title: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: 3835 on January 27, 2011, 10:29:55 AM
It may be a stretch, but one of my favorite all time Track balls was the NRg way back in the mid 90s. Double D won back to back tourneys with it if I remember right as well. I was looking at Storm's newest ball, the Virtual Gravity Nano...with NRG coverstock! Seems to me like Ebonite would have as good of a chance as Storm did by filing a lawsuit over Mission Domination....

 

Thoughts?

 

3835


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: sunsetlefty on January 27, 2011, 07:23:00 PM
I believe that the issue has to do with copyright laws. My understanding is that the 'Domination' name was copyrighted by Storm. Thus, they forced Ebonite to change the new Mission Domination name.

 

However, if other names from either ball company are not copyrighted, the names are open to use.

 

I could be wrong, so don't take this as gosple. This is what was explained to me by a contact in the bowling industry.


Owner of X-act Reaction pro shop at Ideal Lanes
www.xactreaction.com
Ebonite International Gold Pro Shop
Rotogrip Star Pro Shop
Storm VIP Pro Shop
PBA Member
 
Edited by sunsetlefty on 1/27/2011 at 8:24 PM
Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: kidlost2000 on January 27, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Change it to

 

Mission Dominate

 

Or

 

Mission D2.5

 

Anything is better then what they picked.


Be good, or be good at it.
Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: bighook69 on January 27, 2011, 09:24:54 PM
Mission 3.0
 
done! 


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: 3835 on January 28, 2011, 04:18:46 AM
Titleist,

 

Exactly my point. Its just a name, not an exact match to your ball name, etc.

 

How don't we know that Phil C and the Columbia boys didn't patent the NRg name back in the 90's? I say give it right back to them and see what Storm does.

 

3835


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: TWOHAND834 on January 28, 2011, 06:21:22 AM
If you remember correctly, Ebonite had the Illusion back about 10 years ago that had the chromocolor cover to it.  Then, about 5-6 years ago, Roto Grip came out with a ball called the Illusion.  EXACT same name.  If I am wrong, please tell me but I think it is true.



Peace doesnt always have to be silent.
Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: 3835 on January 28, 2011, 06:51:10 AM
TWOHAND

 

You are 100% correct! Ebonite Illusion came out late 02/early 03 and the Roto Illusion came out in 07....hmmm...wonder what Storm/Roto thinks about that? I wonder if any legal barbs were traded then between the two companies and thus why Storm is coming after Ebo now?

 

3835


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: omphlet on January 28, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
dont forget about that other storm ball Virtual Mission 4.0


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: SKIDSNAP on January 30, 2011, 10:39:30 AM
 You guys are grasping at straws.  To help you out here is some relevant info about trademark infringement.

The rights to a trademark can be lost through abandonment, improper licensing or assignment, or genericity. A trademark is abandoned when its use is discontinued with an intent not to resume its use. Such intent can be inferred from the circumstances. Moreover, non-use for three consecutive years is prima facie evidence of abandonment. The basic idea is that trademark law only protects marks that are being used, and parties are not entitled to warehouse potentially useful marks. So, for example, a recent case held that the Los Angeles Dodgers had abandoned rights to the Brooklyn Dodgers trademarkMajor League Baseball Properties, Inc. v. Sed Non Olet Denarius, Ltd., 817 F. Supp. 1103 (S.D.N.Y. 1993).
Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: Track900 on February 02, 2011, 12:01:08 PM
Roto Grip is bringing out the Infinite Theory, and of course Ebonite had the Infinite One. Ebonite should have just "traded" them so ebonite could use Domination and roto could use Infinite. Would have been a done deal


Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: TheFreeAgent on February 02, 2011, 12:58:25 PM



i would of like to see a Mission Impossible. with TC1996 cover stock


REFS: MrEddie(BBE), notsohotshot(BR), akanayte(UTA), Tywithay(BBE), BKloss(BR), therealdeal24(BR)

Formerly RotoStorm2008
Title: Re: Maybe Ebonite should sue Storm next.....
Post by: EboKnight on February 07, 2011, 01:55:48 PM
Ebonite Mission Domination 2011
Ebonite Blue Ice 2004
Ebonite Black Ice 2005
Ebonite Optyx Illusion 2003
 
Storm Paradigm Domination 2006
Storm Blue Ice Storm 2007
Storm Black Ice Storm 2010
RotoGrip Illusion 2008
 
3 Storm cases of them using Trademarked Ebonite ball names (partial or entire).
1 Ebonite case of using Trademarked Storm ball names (partial or entire).
 
It took a Major Championship title win from Ebonite for Storm to file against Ebonite? really?
Do they not have anything better to do?
 


Matt Williams
Gator Pro Shop: June 04 - Present
Ebonite Staff(3 years)
www.Ebonite.com
www.GatorBowling.com
 
Edited by EboKnight on 2/7/2011 at 3:23 PM